Total newbie question

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by mookybird, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. mookybird

    mookybird Gramps

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    I know nothing about sidecars and thought I would ask "is this a reasonable thing to attempt" from the experts before I started trying to get an answer through searching.

    I ride a Yamaha xs650 street tracker, providing I did the research and built it correctly, could I build a sidecar that would safely haul a Yamaha TT500 and a few tools?

    Running the flat track bike is strictly a hobby and if I could ride to the races versus the pickup/enclosed trailer I would probably attend several more events a year.

    Here's the 500 I'd like to put on the hack.
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  2. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    It might be better putting it on a simple one rail trailer and pulling that with the xs650, probably faster.DB
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  3. DavePave

    DavePave Been here awhile

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    Both have been done - sidecar on xs650 and dirt bike on sidecar frame.

    I am sure you could find a frame at a reasonable price, then just put a center rail on it..... and some tie-down points.

    It's rare to see that, but lurk around in some of the threads here and you'll find at least one example......

    To answer your question..... Find an xs650 sidecar thread and find out if a sub-frame was required. If not that'll save you a lot of work / effort. If one was used, then you can always have a pro make it, installing it yourself and saving a LOT of grief.
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  4. mookybird

    mookybird Gramps

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    Thanks for the replies, I've been doing a bunch of browsing and reading this afternoon and have learned a bit. I've sort of wanted a sidecar rig for some time and this gives me a legit reason to pursue it.

    I have a good shop to work in and basic fabrication skills and I'm not set on the xs650 as a tug, I happen to own and like it but if a larger and heavier bike with more modern brakes etc would be better I'm willing to get one.

    My goal here is to ride to various races and run the old guy vintage classes and if the TT500 is too heavy to put on a hack safely I'll get a lighter bike. I grew up riding Bultaco's and have been wanting to find an Astro to run now and then anyway.

    Thanks again, I'll keep reading and hopefully a few more will throw a few opinions my way as well. Gramps
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  5. usgser

    usgser Long timer

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    A good condition Ural with the tub removed will haul that but it won't be fun. There's a learning curve piloting a hack with a lesser load. For a newb hack pilot IMHO you're asking for trouble(prior two wheel experience means zip, nada, squat). If you feel you just must do this get some training and then practice, practice, practice before playing in traffic or on the hwy.
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  6. MotoJ

    MotoJ Mobtown Hacker

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    It's been done both ways- trailer and sidecar. It's been done at the same time, too!

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    Here's a previous thread:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15504

    Also, it's true that solo bikes and sidecar piloting are two different skill sets, but it sounds like you're athletic and physically coordinated, as a racer. You'll be fine. Common sense and practice!
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  7. DirtyDR

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    I prefer a trailer.

    My XL500, which probably weighs as much if not more than your flattracker, on the trailer.
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    Or you could go hardcore, from the national in Arkansas.
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  8. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    You know DirtyDR I'm starting to see you as the real voice of reason on the hacks forum, you do more with less than anyone.DB
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  9. DirtyDR

    DirtyDR Dana

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    Is that a polite way of calling me cheap?
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  10. DirtyDR

    DirtyDR Dana

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    For the record I do own a real tow vehicle,
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    or two,
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    Sorry for the hijack but I was just defendng myself.:evil
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  11. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    I thought Pragmatic and thrifty would be better, your definetly not one of the bourgeoisie afluent white hack owners !!!

    bourgeoisie, the social order that is dominated by the so-called middle class. In social and political theory, the notion of the bourgeoisie was largely a construct of Karl Marx (1818–83) and of those who were influenced by him. In popular speech, the term connotes philistinism, materialism, and a striving concern for “respectability,” all of which were famously ridiculed by Molière (1622–73) and criticized by avant-garde playwrights since Henrik Ibsen (1828–1906).
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  12. villageidiot

    villageidiot Long timer

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    There's a rider at the local speedway track that tows his speedway bike behind his bagger on a little trailer. Has a little toolbox and cooler and easy up on the trailer. Neat setup.
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  13. Bobmws

    Bobmws Curmudgeon At Large

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    Value driven......... :D
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