Tourance EXP are NOT mud tires

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by crazyjeeper, Jul 22, 2012.

  1. crazyjeeper

    crazyjeeper Been here awhile

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    So what do you get when you mix a super tenere, tourance EXPs, a dirt road and heavy rains last night.

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    I'll let the video tell the whole story.

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    By the time I saw that little puddle that took me down, all I had time to do was think 'ah crap, this won't end well'.

    All said, no damage to me other than a little soreness. I am really glad I was wearing my Sidi Crossfires though, I will never leave pavement without them after this. Only damage to the bike was the tang on the sidestand is bent.

    I think next time around I will be getting some knobbier tires since these EXPs aren't going to cut it on anything that isn't pavement.
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  2. burmbuster

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    On my XC. The stock trail tyres aren't nearly as aggressive as they need to be. mine happened in sand coming to a stop. The front end washed out.
    Glad your ok. Could have been much worse. I am looking for tyres now myself.
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  3. wibby

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    :lol3 what do you expect crossing ruts like that :rofl



    Btw, they've worked in the mud fine on my Wee

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  4. crazyjeeper

    crazyjeeper Been here awhile

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    I expected to crash, and I did. Not my first encounter with a rut, just the first time it bit me that hard. :norton

    I knew I was up a creek when I saw I was heading at that hole at an angle, but I can't help but think I might have had a better chance of getting out of it with a knobbier tire.
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  5. wibby

    wibby BrotherFromAnotherMother

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    there you go then :ricky
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    Your right. A nobbier tyre would have helped. Looked to me like you may have let off a little instead of powering through it as well which caused more weight to be distributed to the front.
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  7. burmbuster

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    Aw, yes. The mighty wee. Too bad there are no pics of you actually riding through it instead of being pulled through it.
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  8. wibby

    wibby BrotherFromAnotherMother

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    Been through that puddle many many times on Tourances, Anakees and TKC's. Not to mention the 15 miles off pavement to get to that part

    TKC's really were not any easier, they tended to try to climb out of the ruts, ending with me crossed up
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  9. crazyjeeper

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    It is possible. When I went through it frame by frame the speedo actually went up 1mph just before I fell so I think I just kept the power steady. Really the problem was the front tire sliding on the wet clay.

    I should have steered right and gone right through that puddle instead of trying to avoid it and stayed in a rut until the end of that particular low spot.

    Oh well, live and learn. :ricky
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    wibby BrotherFromAnotherMother

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    What kinda pressure were you running?

    I always run 22f/24r on dirt
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  11. crazyjeeper

    crazyjeeper Been here awhile

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    I have no idea. I've only had that thing for 2.5 weeks, so whatever they put in it when they took it out of the crate I suspect.
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  12. Forty Years Ago

    Forty Years Ago I'm not an alcoholic.

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    How do you know if the dealer put any air in the tires?:D
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  13. pretbek

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    I learned the same thing in a very similar way;
    With tires like that on a muddy path (mine were Scorpion Trail front and Avon Storm 2 :rolleyes rear on a Versys, both at 22 psi) it is better to go straight through, than to try and climb the side of a puddle/rut.

    I was going a little slower than you, but my bike got just as sleepy.
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  14. burmbuster

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    Crazy,
    Next time your going off road try running 20-22 lbs in the front and rear. Take a pump with you and just air back up once you get the pavement heading home.
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  15. O.C.F.RIDER

    O.C.F.RIDER Loose nut behind h/bars

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    Yup!
    All those tires mentioned work great in the dirt.
    That's precisely why so many dirt riders run them.
    Why, I just don't know why I haven't seen the light yet and mounted up a set on my 525, as they should be even BETTER on a bike that weighs so little.


    Please, I've got AT90's on my 950 and they suck ass in the mud, and they are at least as good (if not better) than the Tourance's or Anakee's.

    Can you make it through "stuff"? Maybe.
    Are they any good in the dirt? NO!
    To state that you made it to "the puddle" after a heroic 15 miles trek "off pavement", doesn't really mean shit. If the "off pavement" is fairly dry and no greasy hills, you could go forever. Or at least until you encountered some nasty "real" dirt type terrain.
    I hate TKC's worse than anything, but for you to insinuate that they aren't any better in the dirt than the other 2 you mentioned kind of makes it sound like you don't know what you're talking about. Or maybe you just got mad skillz, and you like sliding all over the trail to hone those skillz, as opposed to getting something resembling, uh.................... TRACTION.

    To the OP....................you would be correct in stating that "Tourance EXP's" are, in fact, NOT mud tires. :lol3

    Thank You & Good Day! :D

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  16. crazyjeeper

    crazyjeeper Been here awhile

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    Edit: I just checked my tires, the front had less than 20lbs in it :eek1 so I don't think too much air pressure was my problem here. :lol3

    Yeah, I'll have to do that next time I get into any rough stuff. Most of my off pavement experience has been in this (hence the name).

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    Airing down makes all of the difference with that rig, so no surprise really it helps with bikes.

    Yup, I will be avoiding the sloppy stuff a lot more now at least until I get some real rubber like Heidenau K60s, TKCs, or similar mounted. :D
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    Watching that video is funny. I am NOT an experienced dirt rider and I recently took a beginners off-road class. The day I took it, it rained all freakin' day. Most of the class was in a hay field and that kept speeds WAY down. Even a little bit of throttle made the tires spin. I took the class on a demo bike which was a new BMW 1200GS with factory Tourance tires. Careful use of the throttle and brakes kept me in good shape.

    At the end of the day, we made a trek down some dirt roads which included a couple of steep hills in Virginia clay and a very large mud puddle. I made it through all of them with no problem as I applied the number one lesson of the day: Look where you want to go! As long as I kept my vision up, things were fine. The only time I deviated was as I glanced down at the ruts leading into the last mud puddle. The results were predictable and look very much like the posted video.
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  19. crofrog

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    That wasn't even a crash...
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  20. crazyjeeper

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    You are correct, it wasn't. The last proper crash I had resulted in a ride to the hospital in an ambulance and left me with a broken wrist.

    In this one, my AltRider crash bar took the brunt of the impact. They were pristine before this little oops.

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