Trail Bike Recommendation Needed

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  1. mountainguy

    mountainguy Been here awhile

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    I'm planning to buy a 400-450 size trail bike for some overnight mountain riding. Older guy. I weigh 230 and would be packing some gear. 30" inseam. I would like to spend no more than $5000. Please recommend a good choice that would fit these needs.

    Should have said before. I am in Colorado.
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  2. onewoodsrider

    onewoodsrider Been here awhile

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    Yamaha wr450 sounds like a bike that will fit your needs. Regardless of what you buy the suspension is going to need some work for your weight and what you plan on packing on it for a weekend.
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  3. smitty141

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    KTM 400-450-525-530 EXC, easy to plate. Easy to jump on the road and ride extended road mile to tie trails together. I have done 50-60 miles at 70mph on my 400 EXC.

    Perfect off road, dual-sport, trail bike.

    Smitty
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  4. FakeName

    FakeName Wile E Coyote SuperGenius

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    OP did not state his state, so I didn't make the same suggestions.

    If he's in CA, it's NOT easy to plate within his budget. He'd need on '07+ or previously plated bike.
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  5. Zuber

    Zuber Zoob

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    30" inseam means all those bikes are out the window, unless you spend $500 lowering them.

    It's more to the street side and heavier (350 lbs) but the DR650 is hard to beat. You can touch the ground, reliable, cheap, lots of accessories. It needs a bigger tank and a good luggage rack, then you can tour the world.
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  6. el queso

    el queso toda su base

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    It's not real new or sexy, but a Honda XR 400 might be a good choice. If you want something newer, a CRF 450X.
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  7. akarob

    akarob Green Cantern

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    KTM 500exc.
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  8. Shunka

    Shunka Supervision Required

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    Not really. I have a 30' inseam and ride a 08 530EXC. Is it a little tall? Sure, but not unmanageably so and only in a few situations. 99% of the time it isn't a problem.
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  9. Zuber

    Zuber Zoob

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    I have a 37" inseam, so I don't see how you walk around with those things.
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  10. BikePilot

    BikePilot Long timer

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    I wouldn't sweat it too much, most anything you could end up with will do the job just dandy. Focus on getting something clean and reliable and have fun!

    I've trail ridden in colorado, including some pretty long day trips (always went back to the truck or cabin at night so far) on a CR250R (with a big tank and toted extra fuel), XR650R (great option really, bomb proof tank of a bike and not actually that heavy, power similar to a modern 450 but harder to kill and more grunt off the bottom).

    In colorado I like to have something that's pretty grunty or fuel injected, otherwise once you go up or down a mountain things get boggy. Bikes I'd look at:

    Bike/Pros/Cons
    XR650R: Bulletproof, massive grunt at all RPMs, very simple, so much grunt and generally uncaring motor that it runs great even if carb settings are not perfect, insanely easy to start for a kick start big bore thumper; carb, not street legal without a conversion, a bit dated, 5spd gearbox

    XR400R: Also pretty bulletproof, grunty off the bottom, very manageable. carb, not street legal without a conversion, a bit dated, 5spd gearbox, sorta flexy for high speed hammering, a bit inconstant starting--overal harder starting than the 650R as weird as that is.

    DRZ400S: Pretty durable, factory street legal, very smooth, slim feel; not a lot of power, heavy, carb'd and get boggy if jetting is off (which it will be for at least part of your ride)

    KTM RFS dual sport: Light, great performance, factory street legal; pain to work on, picky about maintenance, don't like to be pushed really hard.

    70 degree 'berg: sorta the ultimate RFS--steers better, seems more durable, fuel injected. Very smooth and easy to ride. Probably my top pick. Downsides are that there are a few weird things that need sorted to make the fuel injection totally reliable and the ultra-trick and near-mandatory "70 degree" tanks are now out of production.

    WR450F, KLX450F, CRF450F: All awesome performance, all need lots of modding to be street legal and never will be all that great on the street.

    TE610: Very reliable, smooth, 6spd gearbox. Sort of like a more polite, smooth, factory street legal XR650R. Would be very high on my list. Just a bit heavy and long-feeling for gnarly, technical off road. Probably the simplest, most practical option.



    Something like this is 530 is very commonly available and would do just dandy
    http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/4223013539.html
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  12. refokus

    refokus Hmmmmmm

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    I have a 30" inseam as well, ride a KTM450 with no problems. You don't have to be 6ft tall to ride the KTM's but it would help.
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  13. refokus

    refokus Hmmmmmm

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    :deal:lol3
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    i have a plated 450 xc-w (pretty much the same as an exc). it's an awesome trail bike. and i've done multi-hundred mile road trips on it as well. i actually prefer it over my DRZ for that because of the wide ratio 6-speed.

    weighing only 250 lbs (dry) is really nice on long days on technical trails.

    it's a great bike for what the OP describes.
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  15. F250Pal

    F250Pal Been here awhile

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    I have a plated WR450F and love it.

    I have a XR650L and love it, for different reasons.
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  16. Off the grid

    Off the grid Unsmooth Operator

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    This might be the worst misinformation ever posted in Thumpers. :lol3 :fpalm

    No offense bro, but you are totally wrong....about almost everything. (except the 610) :lol3
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  17. bykpimp

    bykpimp Live and let ride

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    Hmmmmm, I've owned every bike on the above list except the Berg and I think the info' is pretty spot on. Tell us where we went wrong???
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  18. Off the grid

    Off the grid Unsmooth Operator

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    Well having owned an XRR and an RFS bike his "opinion" is totally off. Almost the exact opposite experience in fact.

    When people come here asking for bike advice I hope they are smart enough to take peoples opinions (my own notwithstanding) with a grain of salt.
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  19. brucifer

    brucifer Long timer

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    I can't speak for the other bikes but having ridden my buddies DRZ400 and owned 4 XR650Rs an XR400 and a WR450, I can totally agree with his evaluation of said bikes. I'd go as far to say the XR650R was one of the easiest big-bore kickstarting bikes--next to my ancient XR500R--I've ever owned and the XR400 the worst.
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