Trail Tech MR16 HID lights are crap, 2 lights 2 failures!!!

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by One Less Harley, May 30, 2010.

  1. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    4/17/2010 Purchased a set of Trail Tech HID lights (MR16 HID), 1st the ballast went out on the 1st ride. Ok, sent it back to be repaired. No problems w/ that. Now the other light fails to arch completely (barely lights up) and light up, I guess i might have no more than 5 hours on the light.

    Tuesday I'm going to call and see about getting a refund and possible exchange for regular halogen lights. I'm concerned as the web page on refunds says " Used items may not be accepted."

    These lights are crap. 100% failure and these aren't cheap.
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  2. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    +1, Had the same issue and they would not even give me a new bulb.
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  3. NordStrom

    NordStrom Adventurer

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    +1, but with their MR11 mini-HID lites. Absolute crap. One died after 4 months, the second made it just under a year. The warranty period is only 3 months - tells you something right there. My bike is garage kept - despite that, the chrome finish on the lites was toast in less than a year. Bubbled everwhere and then began to flake off in large chunks.

    I've recently installed a pair of 12watt (!!) LED "Glenda" lites from Clearwater. These look like a great product. Wired into my high beam circuit, with a dimmer troller for use with the low beams. Really great conspicuity lites during the daylight hours and great critter lights at nite when on high beam. Really fills in the shoulder and ditch with light. Install notes and pics at:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13077714&postcount=1

    Clearwater also makes a set of 2 x 36 watt LED "Krista" focussed headlites if you want even more auxiliary lighting. I haven't tried these - too big of a power draw for my VStrom.

    Their website is http://www.clearwaterlights.com/
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  4. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    I spoke w/ Justin at Trail Tech, he agreed to offer me a full refund on the lights. I'm happy about that. He mentioned that the lights were developed for off road use and the high frequency vibrations on the road are causing some failures, not experienced w/ the off road versions.

    A couple of good notes, the lights are made in WA, and they are working on improving the lights.
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  5. bigborefan

    bigborefan Making new friends

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    Glad to hear that. They have a good rep in the off road world.
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  6. Xeraux

    Xeraux Archvillain

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    I loved mine, but I could never get them running at the same time. :umph

    I finally took them off my bike.
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  7. CodeMonkee

    CodeMonkee Geek Adventurer

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    :huh

    I feel this is highly unlikely.
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  8. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    might be rabbit, might be.


    I went with the vision x led lights, same as the denali's, $119 each, wiring not included, but I already had a PIA harness.
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  9. dnrobertson

    dnrobertson Big Bike, Slow Rider

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    I'd better not use them on my KTM 640 LC4A, (even off-road). High frequency, low frequency, I got every vibration known to man :lol3.
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  10. LateApex

    LateApex Adventurer

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    I was really excited about TT HID MR16s, but have about nothing but problems. I currently run motolights, but would like more output. I recently stumbled upon these though,

    http://vagabondoffroad.com/products.html

    and these look promising.:clap
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  11. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    yeah those lights look promising, but too bad there are no pictures of the actual lights!!! Where is the company located, information on the lights a little lacking.
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  12. bmwblake

    bmwblake upside down parker

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    i've been looking at those lights. looking forward to a review once you have them installed.



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  13. Xeraux

    Xeraux Archvillain

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    +1

    :lurk
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  14. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    X- what about those state flags??? PM me I'd like a small set
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  15. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    About two weeks ago I got an email from Trail Tech, seems they were aware of my less than positive experience mentioned here. The rep asked if I would be willing to test a new improved MR16 HID light. I emailed him back saying I'd be interested.

    I spoke to the rep as I was curious what improvements were made. The rep was very interested in my comments on the light. I gave some thoughts about their light construction and some other things. Trail Tech is definitely interested in correcting problems w/ the previous design and is targeting the Dual Sport market w/ the improvements.

    There weren't any changes to the light housing. Internally the light has been changed. Without going into specifics the ballast and bulb were changed.
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  16. tdreyer

    tdreyer KTiM

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    Standard Operating Procedure for TT. Get the new light and see if it works any better. Then let everyone know.

    They bought back an X2 HID from me after countless replacements, bulbs, ballasts and whole lights. They sent me a new and improved version and after about the same amount of hours it also failed. End result; they stated it was not designed for street applications:huh Hello! It is designed for a motorcycle! If my SMC were and SXC the light would have still failed.

    Lots of frustration with TT. I don't know about the earlier post about TT having a good rep with off roaders, I see lots of posts about bad TT stuff.

    After refunding me the $$ for my light, I continue to reply to others who are thinking of buying a TT light. They did refund my $$ but their product still sucks:deal

    And now, as usual someone in the TT organization will blast me again for posting my sour opinion of their company.

    :boid Geoff at TT
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  17. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    As stated earlier, I was less than happy w/ the lights and they did fail quite quickly...very little use. I was given a refund. With the refund of the 1st two lights, I spoke w/ a rep and was told the same as you, "not designed for street use," but working on fixing the problems.

    At this point I, I was just happy to get a fulll refund, and not impressed w/ the HID's at all. Oh well, so be it, I got my money back.

    I was contacted through an IM, through ADV rider, some 4 months later by a rep of Trail Tech, asking if I would like to test a redesigned MR16 HID light, no cost to me. Sure why not, I've got nothing to loose, it's worth a shot.

    If they want to improve a product why should anyone blast a company for trying to improve it? So the light isn't the same as before but changes have been made to the bulb and ballast.

    I just mounted them yesterday, and tried them out briefly on the road.. So far so good, but only about 20 minutes of use, with quite a few off and on from High beam (HID's are wired directly to the high beam).

    I understand your feelings about the lights and I'll post my findings w/ the lights for good or bad.
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  18. Motorman

    Motorman Been here awhile

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    According to Trailtech, these lights are not designed for the on-off procedures required for highway use, ie., slaving them to the high beam and turning them off for on coming traffic. This shortens bulb life on all bulbs, but especially HID's.
    But, maybe they have fixed the issue. Best of luck to you on your road tests.
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  19. garridan

    garridan Adventurer

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    I completely understand the frustrations with the MR16 and X2 line. Recently there have been changes made to the ballast and lamp in an attempt to address the needs of the street market. Our in-house test show a significant improvement, and we are hoping to have the same results in the field. Hooking the lights up to the high beam will give us a good test of the reliability even under the stress of being switched on and off.

    Garridan
    Trail Tech
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  20. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    So here's how I've installed the Tail Tech MR16 HID's,

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    Extra parts- Piaa moutning brackets
    - deutsch waterproof connectors as used by Vision X
    -Piaa wiring harness

    Wiring the deutsch connectors

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    Pictured in order of assembly, those two flat black things are shrink wrap.


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    metal terminals are soldered to red and black wires. Make sure to double check polarity as the lights have to be connected correctly.

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    Push in wire prongs through the little end and make sure they are fully seated,then insert green locking tab at the other end.

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    Push red sealing gasket in place then shrink warp wires.

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    Light ready to install to crash bar.

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    Piaa light mount, notice the tab is facing towards the rear. This offers some protection in case of and off/on road accident.

    See why???

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    NO no one can dispute how bright these lights are. Unfortunately mine are mounted low on the bar so that hurts the range some. But range is far better than the Vision X, but it takes 10-15 seconds to warm up.






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