Trail Tech Vapor

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by mars, Jun 27, 2006.

  1. mars

    mars Starbucks anyone?

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    I have this 96 KTM 400 RXC that’s got way to much money sunk into it, so I did the only logical thing, I put more in it.
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    The stock speedometer strives to be inaccurate but falls short. It would read about 40 mph when it should be readying 65 or 70. It had to go.
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    I decided to try the new trail tech Vapor system. It is very reasonably priced at $99.00 but I sprung for the aluminum holder, a good choice.

    The kit came with everything needed for a 2000 and up KTM, unfortunately I had a 96. The first call to Trail Tech, they shipped the right sensor out, no charge with no hassle and apologized for the mistake.

    The unit is nicely made. It reads water temperature, outside air temperature, speed and has a built in tach. Every thing I needed and a bunch of other functions.
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    The water sensing unit was the hardest to install. I found a good spot for in in between the backbone right behind the radiator.
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    The tach only needs to be wrapped around the spark plug wire 10 times. Cold shrink wrap tape to the rescue, this stuff is great.
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    I decided to tap and install a threaded allen bolt for the sensor on the front wheel.
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    The cable was easily attached to the brake cable and all is well. I used some of my favorite black cloth tape and its ready for action.
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    The instructions were very clear and I only found one mistake that was corrected on the installation sheet.
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    It took a couple of spacers to make it fit the bar mounts. I used a couple of valve stem nuts and drilled them out a bit.
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    The set up is so adaptable. You can set the tach for one or two stroke motors, and there are adjustments for about any timing combination you could find. My LC4 ended up being a spark every revolution? The water temperature has a max and then a warning temperature. You can also set it up to signal a shift point, and there is an over rev light too. I am about to go out and set the odometer with my GPS, when it cools off a bit this evening.

    Great product and the service was great. Some one answered the phone every time I called, what a change.
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  2. Poolside

    Poolside Syndicated

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    Nice writup Mars :thumb One heckuva deal at $99.

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  3. mars

    mars Starbucks anyone?

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    I thought so too. They have two other models, one seems suited for enduro and the other seems suited for road racing or anything with loops.
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  4. kellyk7

    kellyk7 Who knows

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    thanks for posting, I been waiting till after all the 4th of July Hoopty due to get one one order, Write back and let us know how you like it in real life, I will post my install and others can compare
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  5. mars

    mars Starbucks anyone?

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    I mounted my gps on the bike and took it out for a 20 mile ride last night and had the speedo dialed in perfectly. You can adjust it down to the inth degree.
    It took about 3 adjustments to get it right on.
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  6. ChrisC

    ChrisC Amal sex?

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    Cripes, I was hopin' for 1/2 an inth.... :cry

    Nice writeup, Mars
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  7. mars

    mars Starbucks anyone?

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    A fellow perfectionist, others don't understand.
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  8. ganshert

    ganshert not sleeping

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  9. GODSPEED

    GODSPEED finger lickin' good

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    Thanks for posting Mars. I have a 96 620 Rxc that I need to start working on. The Veypor was on my list to replace the broken speedo with.
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  10. mars

    mars Starbucks anyone?

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    I think the Veypor is more of a track tool.
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  11. GODSPEED

    GODSPEED finger lickin' good

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    Doh, that's what I get for scanning the thread. I meant the Vapor from Trail Tec. That Veypor comment at the end got me. My bad.
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  12. KenR

    KenR Long timer

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    Nice install. If you have a side view picture of the whole bike, would you mind posting it? I have a buddy that just ended up with a 90-somethin' LC4 and we're trying to identify the year.

    Thanks!
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  13. Southest US Thumper

    Southest US Thumper Extreme n00b

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    Nice write up, pretty amazing price, might have to spring for one.
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  14. ktmnate

    ktmnate Long timer

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    Very nice Mars! This is now going to be the next thing I get for my 620. I blew a hole in my piston due to low water lever. That water temp guage is priceless!



    Nate
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  15. pburke

    pburke Talks more than he rides

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    I just put the first 2 miles on my Vapor. Installed it on my XR650R which is plated, but had no speedo because the seller kept the Endurance he had on it. So I at least had a magnet in the front disc and the hole for the speedo sensor already drilled. Rest was not so hard to do. Battery hooked up, then the 10 wraps around the Spark plug wire, held in place with a zip tie. Then I used a 2mm think aluminum plate from an old electronics box project and built me a nice mount for the unit. Rock solid. Gotta take some pix I guess, otherwise I'll never hear the screams of "useless post without pix" :D

    The radiator deal was more involved, though:

    Since I wanted to change coolant to engine ice anyway, I flushed the system with distilled water a few times. Then I cut the hose for the senor T-unit and realized it's too small for the hose size. Read about this in another thread so it didn't come as a big surprise. Some Teflon plumber's tape to build up the plastic sensor T unit to the rescue, but then the hose clamps they sent didn't even fit over the hose. :doh Trip to Autozone and $4 later I had two clamps that fit.

    Filled the thing with Engine Ice, checked for leaks, checked coolant level, all ok. Get bike off the stand, get gear, hop on and put the first 2.4 miles on the unit. Coolant is at 132 F right now, half an hour after the run.

    What I can't figure out is how to use the Stop Watch on the unit, but luckily that is the least imortant feature. Everything else seems to work fine.

    For $100, this is a pretty darn nice unit, and I don't think it's a trail tool. They sell a different uniti for that called the Lynx (http://www.trailtech.net/lynx.htm) which has remote start stop buttons for lap timing, etc. I bought the Vapor because it lets me monitor the XR's coolant temp and beyond that provides basic speed and distance info.

    Peter
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  16. JcbKarl

    JcbKarl Been here awhile

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    I put a Trail Tech Vapor on my CRF250X and have ridden about 100 miles with it so far. For $100 I am extremely pleased. I guess my only peave is that it automatically reverts out of the total distance screen (one of three screen displays) too soon in my opinion. I haven't bothered to call Trail Tech to see if that's how they all are. You also can't show engine temp and trip distance on the same screen. The first screen shows ambient temp with trip distance. The second screen shows engine temp with rpm.

    But all in all I love it. The rpm bar graph actually works very well but is really suited best to engines that run between 4000 and 9000 rpm because that is the high resolution part of the bar graph. It's also got numerical readout of rpm which updates at a perfect sample rate in my opinion. Engine temp is great to have, I realized that I don't need an auxiliary cooling fan (which doesn't come stock on CRF250X). In fact, if I'm in second gear or higher and it's cold out, I should probably cover up one of the radiators.

    It's so cool, I want to put one on my lawnmower. :D
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  17. nobrakes

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    I put one on my KLX250S. I didn't much care for the stock gages and the speedo was off by over 10% . I had 2800 miles on my KLX at the time, and didn't want to have to mentally add 2800 miles to the odometer, and since the permanent odometer function is not settable, I just attached the spare magnet to a motor shaft, set the wheel size to be very large, then set the spinning magnet next to the speedo sensor until I had accumulated the 2800 miles to catch up. Took a few hours of 250 MPH, but otherwise worked fine. :D

    I like the Vapor a lot - and is definitely a good deal at only $99.

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  18. XTman

    XTman Do NOT follow me...

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    I will try to install one on my Yamaha XT600 2001, if I find out what model is
    right for my bike.

    Thank you!
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  19. Foot dragger

    Foot dragger singletracker

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    Hell i might mount one of those on my dog,as he gets to backfiring and overheating running around the yard when i mow the lawn or start a two stroke. Probably need a battery pack settup to make that work. Can you see the screen good enuff when your out in the sun? a friend had one of these and it used to go blank if left out in the sun.
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  20. aardschok

    aardschok Fallout Rider

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    Well, I finally had to order one of these. Was gonna get the Veypor unit to have the gear indicator, but I just couldn't get past the odd look of it. (esp. for the price) The Trail Tech unit looks more sexy :babethrough my eyes. I hope it works as well as everyone says.
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