Trail Tech Voyager - Interesting GPS Speedo!

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by Yellow Pig, Oct 22, 2010.

  1. the venturer

    the venturer Long timer

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    Hi. My few months old Voyager stopped its GPS function. Donno what s wrong? Any ideas.Thx in advance.
  2. the venturer

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    Sent unit back and they changed with a new one with all updates. Thanks TT

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  3. Dirty in all

    Dirty in all Adrenaline Junkie

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    I called trail tech a while ago but never posted results so here it is. They will give you the service code and procedure for setting your hours and mileage. As for the altitude not working properly they suggested an external antenna but honestly the unit on my bike sits higher than anything. Maybe the internal antenna lacks but altitude is the only function that has a problem.
  4. Jungle Man

    Jungle Man frenzied adventurer

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    Hi, I am trying to put the tour of idaho route on my trailtech voyager and failing miserably.
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    The message it gives me when I import the ride is "buffer overflow".

    I am useless when it comes to this stuff.
    Could I be exceeding waypoints?
    Do i need to draw the line out in ride leader?


    Any help is appreciated.
    attatched is the route

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  5. MotorcycleWriter

    MotorcycleWriter Long timer

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    This looks like the perfect answer for my R100GS. The original speedo is sort of starting to fail and I'm sick of prying it open. I need a clock/chronometer and that part alone will cost me as much as a Voyager and all it does it tell time. I would like maps but they aren't entirely necessary. I'm more interested in uploading tracks as well as being able to keep track of where I've been (so I can find my way back if necessary!) The price point is good but not really cheap so I want to know what I'm getting!

    Couple of questions:
    How big is it?
    Is it backlit for nighttime use?
    Can the compass be calibrated to account for nearby ferromagnetic objects?
    Has it proven to be adequately water resistant?
    Are the owners still reasonably happy with their units and are the units still working?
    Is the website with tracks on it being maintained and growing?
  6. Adventure Addict

    Adventure Addict Doin it in the dirt

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    • Size: fairly compact, check the pictures to see the size. It fits well on the bike without intruding into the space or getting in the way.

    • Backlight: yes. works well

    • Compass: not sure, don't really use the compass feature much but it does seem to work as expected

    • Water resistant: YES! I use my Voyager in the Philippines where it rains a LOT.

    • Still working? Yes, still working. Only issue was the cable for the magnetic wheel sensor is not as robust as it should be and broke after a few months. Trailtech sent a new cable.

    • Happy? eh. I have had mine for three years now and it is great as a bike dashboard but I really don't use the GPS function as much now since I bought a Garmin Montana. Before the Montana it was OK... no maps but big track memory and it gave a line to follow with decent resolution. The track memory is very good, and you can log long tracks with really short intervals for detailed mapping of where you have been. Nowadays I throw my tracks into it just as a backup in case something happens to the Montana.

    • Website still being maintained? NO. No new firmware for the unit or updates to the Rideleader planning software for a very long time now. Trailtech either completely gave up on the unit or mistakenly thinks it is "perfect" now. The ohvtrails.net website appears to be coasting with only a few users adding anything to it. It was never very user friendly or productive though.

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  7. AugustFalcon

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    Just got mine at the BMW MOA Rally in St Paul and am in the process of installing it on the KTM. It is replacing the VAPOR. I have a couple of fancy relatively new gps devices already. This was originally just going to be a backup and a track recorder. However after playing around with it it now has moved up a notch. The screen is easier to read and I really like the 2 map screens which can be at different zoom levels and only one click to switch between them.

    I got the feeling when talking to the folks in the Trailtech booth that there were new products on the way and that they would be offering good upgrade pricing to previous customers. I believe them because they have always stood behind their products when necessary for me in the past.

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  8. dlorenz

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    Thinking of putting a Voyager onto my Husaberg 570. I want to mount it on top of my bar mounts so I don't cover my stock display.

    Does it come with a mount that can do this?

    How has it worked out?
  9. Adventure Addict

    Adventure Addict Doin it in the dirt

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    The mount it comes with works OK but isn't very robust. It is just a simple plastic clamp that clamps to the bar. Vibrates a LOT and is easily dislodged.

    You probably want something like this though:

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    Available here:

    http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/892/31317/Trail-Tech-Voyager-Triple-Clamp-Mount-Bracket-Top


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  10. AugustFalcon

    AugustFalcon Long timer

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    Got my hopes up but note says "Does not fit KTMs" :(((

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  11. dlorenz

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    Bummer, thought the problem was solved.

    Maybe we can make it fit KTM/Husabergs with a drill?
  12. AugustFalcon

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    Might work. Just measured the bolt spacing on my KTM; its about 3 9/16 inches or 90.49 mm. The plate claims to fit 100-106 mm bolt spacing. But the diagonal cut on the plate might interfere enough to make it impossible to properly space the holes. If I recall correctly the mounting holes for the device a 78 mm or about 3.07 inches apart. So, eyeballing it, perhaps some filing might make it fit.
  13. ohgood

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    it's a bracket.... you can likely make one on twenty minutes or less with that stolen stop sign in the corner of the garage.

    you don't have a stolen stop sign? what do you make skid plate out of?


    OK really though, don't let a bracket hold you up. that's a really cool speedo, it should be on your bike.
  14. AugustFalcon

    AugustFalcon Long timer

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    Just did some testing on the KTM to see what the current draw is for the Voyager.

    This was done with the engine off.

    Voyager turned on with normal screens showing: 110 milliamps
    Voyager turned on long enough for the scree to time out so only the time was showing: 70 milliamps.
    Voyager turned off by holding down the power switch to initiate a shutdown: 0.14 milliamps.

    I had upgraded the batter on my KTM from a 4 amp hour to a 7 amp hour.

    So, if I fail to actually power down the device manually it will kill my battery in about 100 hours or approx 4 days.

    If I turn it off manually it will take 40,000 hours or 1,666 days or 238 weeks or 4.5 years.

    Don't know what the status of the units internal battery charge was but I believe it was fully charged since it had been sitting plugged into the bike power for a long time and the bike had been on the battery charger, too.

    [This is what happens when you are waiting for other bike parts before you can ride it.]
  15. JustRon

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    Mine shuts off by itself after a few minutes of nothing happening. If I roll the bike, it turns on (although, I don't think starting the bike turns it on- can't remember).
  16. AugustFalcon

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    Finally got around to mounting the Voyager on the bike a week to 10 days ago. Never really got the mount quite dialed in because I was busy making a bunch of minor repairs before I leave to do the HoW. Bike has not even been started or moved out of the garage since I mounted the Voyager.

    Here is what I found this morning:

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    the rest of the pictures are here: http://augustfalcon.smugmug.com/2014-08-23

    And NO, I DID NOT OVERTIGHTEN the screws! I used the short end of the allen wrench to apply the twisting torque and didn't use very much because the screws were small AND I used some Loctite 222 (low strength) thread locker.

    To me it looks like the chemical interacted with and degraded the plastic: it looks grainy and a bit fibrous...

    The silver lining in all this is that it caused me to go to the Trailtech website looking for either a replacement plastic handlebar mount or a different inexpensive metal mount. And they have one similar to the mount mentioned up-thread for various bikes including two different mounts for KTMs!

    My KTM, which has no indicator lights, would use the TrailTech Voyager Front Mount Bracket [KTM] p/n 025-0EB (or 025-OEB) for $19.95. That is the same amount a replacement plastic handlebar mount would cost. Looks like a no-brainer...
  17. Biped

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    Loctite will stress crack plastics. Do not use Loctite to secure fasteners in plastic and be very careful when using in metal thread inserts that are in plastic.
  18. AugustFalcon

    AugustFalcon Long timer

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    Got my metal mount for the KTM from Trailtech today; best $20 I ever spent :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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  19. stargazerinwg

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    I made this from a piece of stainless steel sheet metal for my 350 EXC-F. It has been working just fine.

    It was mentioned here about TT providing the procedure to update ODO and ART on Voyager. I contacted them and they sent it and the procedure for the Vapor also which I have on another bike with a similar mounting.
  20. AugustFalcon

    AugustFalcon Long timer

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    Just got back from doing the Heart of the West route: about 2,500 miles of mostly dirt on my 2002 KTM 250 EXC Racing with the Voyager mounted in their metal mount. Fell over a couple of times and had one big off in Nevada where I needed a triple but was only able to manage a double. Their mount did a great job protecting the Voyager.

    I actually had three gps devices mounted: a BMW Nav-V, a PN-60, and the Voyager. The Voyager was the easiest to see the tracks. And the second screen on the dash had all the other stuff I needed to see.

    Two problems with the device: it stopped displaying the temperature and altitude graphs for some reason, and when I tried to load the tracks into Garmin's BaseCamp after I got back it complained that they were not valid gpx files. I was able to cure that by running them through GPSBabel converting them from gpx to gpx.

    Can't seem to figure out why the graphs won't display. The tracks were being recorded,the altitude showed on the screen and so did the temperature. Guess I have to call support.

    Overall I love my Voyager, it simply gets the job done!

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