Trans Euro Trail (TET) thread

Discussion in 'Europe' started by davidlomax, Jul 19, 2017.

  1. Phaedrus68

    Phaedrus68 Been here awhile

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    Spain's TET routes apparently have a 30kmh speed limit. 230km @ 30kmh = nearly 8 hours. That's hardly nothing? Unless you're an awesome hero I suppose. Most lads aren't awesome heroes. I'm not. :muutt

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    How long before some prick in a suit tries to cash in on this. I can see TT or similar offering guided trips on the TET before long. I hope that doesn't happen, and that the only people I meet on it are other independent travellers.

    Well done to all involved - for the prospect of doing bike trips in areas and on trails like these to now be realistic/possible/viable for guys like me who would otherwise not have a clue how to go about it is beyond any words of appreciation I can come up with. And for it to be free...

    Thank you!

    Better get practicing my off-road skillz on my 1150GS. The TET may be better suited to mid-size bikes but I'm a one-bike kinda guy, and that one bike is an 1150GS...
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  2. wimj

    wimj Wannabee adventurer

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    I know the TET is aimed at lightweigth bikes but for me/us poor b*st*rds with heavy bikes it would be a blessing to know which parts of the TET are do-able for us. I pray one day the tracks will be qualified!
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  3. panFiluta

    panFiluta Adventurer

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    Could you (roughly) specify the problematic spots please? Thinking about doing TET Slovenia this month but only have a heavy pseudo-enduro bastard (V-Strom - non-stock, tuned for offroad use, but will be going alone so I would like to avoid unnecessary adventures;) )
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  4. Phaedrus68

    Phaedrus68 Been here awhile

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    So long as Spain & Portugal are big-bike-friendly, I'll be happy with that to start with. :wings
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  5. RedBallRun

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    In short, we'd love to but haven't got the resources to do that. Plus the route is always changing both in routing and in condition so it'll be rapidly outdated even if we colour code routes a la ski piste map. Plus one man's nightmare is another man's breeze. It's much more than bike weight - it's tyres, skills, strength, fitness, whether you're in a group , confidence/bravado etc etc. TRouratech's ACT is aimed at the big bikes or the less confident. TET is aimed at light/middle weight bikes ridden by competent riders - not expert, not beginer. It's an adventure. If somethings too difficult then turn round (before it's too late) and find another route. It's not proscriptive but is a starting point for your adventure.

    As the TET matures and more people ride it, we can expect the upcoming forum to start giving indications of what is more amenable to bigger bikes.
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  6. Guillaume M

    Guillaume M Adventurer

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    Im in my 17th day of the Trans-America Trail. I rode 350 km of mainly dirt roads today and it was a long day but nothing to cry about. Unless you're speaking about gnarly trails, 230 km per day is nothing for most people who adventure travel on small dual sport bikes.

    And regarding 30kmh limit in Spain on dirt roads, I highly doubt any TET riders would follow that, I highly doubt any dirt riders in Spain follow that and I also doubt anybody there expect anyone to ride dirt bikes that slow.
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  7. OldManJoris

    OldManJoris Rider

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    Dude it always depends. There's no one type of "Dirt" or "offroad". On graded gravel you can reach 100km/h for hours, while on rocky mountain roads (like so many in Spain) you're at your limit with 10km/h.
    Let's be reasonable. TAT is not TET is not TCAT is not BCDR is not ...
    without trying to sound like an arse: keep ego in check and be careful with statements. Some parts in Spain (Like Pyrenees) have speed limit and are checked by rangers. Penalties can be very high. More and more parks are being closed for motorized vehicles because of dudes with ego issues.
    Enjoy the TAT, whatever speed you plan to do on that dirt


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  8. Phaedrus68

    Phaedrus68 Been here awhile

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    There you have it folks - a guy on the internet said we can go whatever speed we want on the TET, and ignore local/national laws - doesn't matter if doing whatever we want to do fucks things up for everyone else, and ends up getting the routes on the TET closed to all future motorcyclists. Sure we can still just go and ride them anyway...

    If the law says the speed limit on some TET trails is 30kmh, then I reckon the feds there probably will expect riders to ride "that slow". And - just like the arseholes on sportsbikes speeding on roads - arseholes who speed on trails will inevitably fuck things up for everyone else.

    You ride your ride, I'll ride mine. But your riding shouldn't risk fucking things up for me.
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  9. MiCar

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    Hallo Gemeinde, ich suche Mitfahrer vom Niederrhein, die Interesse haben, den südlichen Teil der NL TET Route mit mir zu fahren.
    Ich habe die Tour schon 2x gemacht und muss sagen, dass sie sich mit der Dicken ( 1100er GS ) gut fahren lässt ( ich hab die Heidenau K60 drauf ).
    Das Streckenprofiel reicht , von Schotter, über Waldwege, leichet Sandwege und wer will, auch Tiefsand ( sollte man besser umfahren, wenn man keine Erfahrung damit hat oder lernen mit schmerzen ).

    Alle Streckenteile sind öffendliche Wege und somit legal !!!!!
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  10. rsvflip

    rsvflip Optimistic realist

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    There are a couple of tracks in Slovenia(TET August version) you should be aware off. First off all, especially when solo adventuring, when it gets rough just stop the bike and walk there before you drive. This way you can plan your way or abort and detour. Just make sure you put fresh rubber on your bike. I would advise you to pick a good off-road tire in the range of 80/20 or more off-road biased. Expect the tracks and trails to be wet underneath the top layer.

    The exact locations are hard to pinpoint now because I didn't log my trip but there is 1 point in which you encounter a tree/log on a small trail. In front of it lays a rock so you can drive over the log. After that is the point of no return where it gets realllly narrow with a big descent to your right. Depending on the size of your cherries, do it or detour. In all cases keep your cellphone/spot in your pocket and not on the bike :baldy

    Also I was glad I put a good aftermarket aluminium bellypan on the bike. It took my fears away when the bike was stuck on the logs and stones I had to cross.

    If you have any questions feel free to PM.
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  11. Phaedrus68

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    "Hello community, I am looking for riders from the Lower Rhine who are interested in driving the southern part of the NL TET route with me. I have already made the tour twice and have to say that they can drive with the thickness (1100 GS) well (I have the Heidenau K60 drauf). The route ranges from gravel, via forest paths, easy sandways and who wants, also Tiefsand (should be better around, if you have no experience with it or learn with pain). All of the routes are open-end paths and therefore legal !!!!!"
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  12. Guillaume M

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    Im sorry if I came off as a douchey ego dude, it was not my intent. I realize that trails and dirt roads vary wildly in speed you can ride them.

    What I was trying to convey is that on the whole, I have a hard time imagining that you can't do 230 km of the TET in average in the long run.

    You are right, I know nothing about the TET and riding the TAT or trails back home can't necessarily translate in isable knowledge for eyeballing the TET km requirements.

    Im just trying to figure it out with the information I have now. I'd like to do that trip and I need to evaluate this variable. I thought what the poster I was replying to was saying was a bit exagerated.

    Once again Im sorry I sounded like I was trying to boast my ego, it was not my intention.
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  13. Guillaume M

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    I was trying to say that it doesn't make sense that you would have to ride all the trails in Spain at 30km/h all the time. That's real slow.

    I clearly didn't write my post carefuly. Im sorry Ive came across as encouraging people to just ignore road regulations it was not my intention and I would not like for TET riders to act in a way that would disparage the community and ruin pur access to trails.

    Clearly I should've chosen my words more carefully.

    Peace!
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  14. Phaedrus68

    Phaedrus68 Been here awhile

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  15. motorang

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    Hi there, we are just doing the Slowenia section coming from the North, entering the TET in Col. From there to the South there is a 1 km shortcut between two gravel roads which is definitely single trail, like a hiking path. A bit slippery and muddy on a rainy day like this. 45,80529005°N and 14,06012535°E is where that starts. Next gnarly bit would be a single trail beteen Smihel and Prejama which is signposted as a bicycle trail. Muddy again and quite steep downhill in the end with a step which would prevent us to ride that section in the other direction. Muddy again it was. We made it to Predjama though. This bit starts at 45,79816454°N and 14,11957741°E. I would find both bits challenging for big bikes. This would be much easier when dry ...
    We are on 350 and 500 cc, camping gear and all. Will add some reports later,
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  16. Frgich

    Frgich Long timer

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    Appreciate all the comments that everyone is making.

    For us the linesman is useful to receive fresh data, but please take into consideration that weather has an impact on the terrain and can alter the trail. Recent heavy rain in the Balkans is making some parts of the TET trail harder. Be warned to take into considerations your level of riding, current weather conditions, and like motorang has above provided info about how loaded or how heavy your bike is.

    Enjoy the ride,

    Cheers
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  17. motorang

    motorang Adventurer

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    Hi again, we finished the Slowenian section and continued on through Croatia. Unfortunately we had to learn that one section of the gpx track runs through a national park no-vehicle zone. The park ranger was friendly but insisted on us NOT riding there unless we would like to pay a 1000 Euro fine per person for riding in an animal reserve. You can only go 6 km along the road to a parking area for hiking. Ranger station where you have to pay the Velebit park entrance as well is at 44,83962549°N and 14,96618511°E. We retraced and took a ranger approved detour East to Krasno Polje village, then headed South to Stirovaca and continued the TET when we crossed the track again. The road into the park at that point is closed off and signposted, so no legal way to ride the TET from the South here as well. I will post some pictures in the next days, kinda hard from the phone right now. The ranger stated that this road section is closed for traffic for at least 8 years now.
    We had no major troubles and a very enjoyable ride from there down to the coastline!
    Andy
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  18. motorang

    motorang Adventurer

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    Screenshot_2017-09-23_082552.jpg
    Ha! Got it captured for you, click to enlarge I guess.
    The multicolor thingy is the TET, the red one is our track, captured in Oruxmaps.
    Andy
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  19. RedBallRun

    RedBallRun Been here awhile

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    Hi @motorang,
    Please email these though to the relevant linesman - details and e-mail address on each country page on the website.
    This is exactly what we need.





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  20. Symonsi84

    Symonsi84 n00b

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    My first post. :)
    @motorang posts like yours are really important, thank you. Since I'm from Slovenia i'm really interested in our TET section. I'm sure that if it's heavy with lightweight 300cc it's even harder for anything above 600 and those not skilled enough (yust bought XT660Z i've had WR250X before).. It was raining for few weeks now in Slovenia so you had a bit of bad luck.
    Also i hope someone will fix Croatian part, 1000€ fine for following TET route is something that nobody wants.

    Oh and thank you guys for this great project! Maybe we'll meet somewhere on trail next year.