Trans Europe Trail Ideas ???

Discussion in 'Europe' started by Orujo, May 13, 2011.

  1. Earthless

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    Hey not really new here just haven't really had anything of importance to share since you are all gurus with bikes already!

    Anyway, whether or not this track will be available I'm starting from Sweden going north doing a Euro-tour in June. If a pre-realease is possible by then, I'll happily take whatever you want to share since this
    route is exactly what I want to ride.

    One question thou about maps/gps devices. You guys 'n gals who have done similar longer offroad-rides in europe, or are planning one right now, are you using for example the built in 100K Topo maps
    that come pre-installed in some devices? Or am I missing other options that are better? Since using tracks they don't really have to be 100%. Getting 24K Topo(for all of europe) maps seems really expensive and it's going
    to take a lot of GB's.

    Great project, really impressed and looking forward to it : )
  2. pingvin

    pingvin Been here awhile

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    Downloaded topo maps for free for Norway and Iceland and worked fine. Only for garmin though.

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  3. Drumbrakes

    Drumbrakes Been here awhile

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    Hi All,
    I've just found this thread, and very excited to see what comes from it.
    I live in Scotland, and see you have nothing there yet, perhaps it's in progress, or perhaps it's been left out because we have next to zero unsurfaced public roads.

    In most countries, unsurfaced roads are ideal for a route like this as they take you away from the main destinations.
    In Scotland, we do have plenty of narrow isolated quiet roads that take you through beautiful scenery and small villages which are ideal on a trail bike, they just happen to be sealed.
    There is already a published route called the NC500 that covers part of the North Coast, and sections could be added in to join onto the England TET.

    If I can help, let me know suitable points on the North of England, and I can put something together that is as close to spirit of the TAT as we can manage.

    I also like the Idea of a Trans Ireland Trail or a Circular Loop Ireland Trail. They are worth planning just for the acronyms.


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  4. RedBallRun

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    Thanks, @Drumbrakes,
    As you correctly point out, sadly Scotland is pretty well bereft of legal green roads so we're not planning at present to extend north of the border. I've used (with permission) ghillie/stalkers roads across Ross and Sutherland in the past but to create any sort of formal trail that could be used by all and sundry would be a bit of a nause - unless you know otherwise ;-)
  5. RedBallRun

    RedBallRun Been here awhile

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    Open Street map downloads are excellent and routable. Once TET v1.0 is complete, we will produce an OSM "corridor" file to download by selecting the tiles that the TET crosses. People can then use that, if they wish, as a basemap to allow them to find detours/POIs etc along the way
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  6. Earthless

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    Perfect thanks for the tips on maps, much appreciated!
  7. RedBallRun

    RedBallRun Been here awhile

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    Nearly there. Just Ukraine to log and we have a loop. Belgium, Slovakia and Hungary will follow.

    We hope to go live in mid-June then it's time to Beta test and feed back!

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  8. runehogh

    runehogh Adventurer

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    This is really an awesome project! Me and two friends of mine are planning some driving in Sweden and Norway this summer. We could do some beta-testing on that part of the route...
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  9. Urwald

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    Have requested access in FB.

    Maybe I can test some of the Pyrenees part!

    Awesome project!
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  10. neonfreak

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    Do you think there could be a combination of the TET community and the Rally Navigator Community?
    Imagine if several people put parts of the GPS track into a roadbook. That would be great :D I know the TET already consists of tens of thousands of kms, but section wise we could draw roadbooks and save them to the public library on the Rally Navigator Website.

    I'm looking forward to your thoughts and can't wait for the launch of the GPS track
  11. RedBallRun

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    @neonfreak - I suppose people can do what they wish with the TET .....BUT the way it is organised and maintained to deal with the endless closures, reroutings and fragile trails is that it will change frequently and that doesn't lend itself to roadbooks - at least not without alot of hassle.

    I'm keen for people to use the upcoming TET website as THE only source of the TET routes - that way people following the TET will be following the most up to date and hopefully legal route.

    The TET will be free of charge so there really is no value in distributing the gpx's through other means such as Wikiloc etc.
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  12. RedBallRun

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  13. Macsporran

    Macsporran never lost ,just on a different road

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    hi redball
    your route looks awesome ,im hoping to do a long ride next year ,id love to do your trail
  14. BLUE(UK)

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    I guess one can only hope to be as legal as possible.

    Is anyone planning to do this route anytime soon, or parts of it?
  15. Schmotard

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    This is an awesome project! Next year I´ll do the TET from Sweden and up. Can´t wait!
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  16. mountaincadre

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    Hoping to do the Scandinavian part next year, leaving from Scotland.
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  17. RedBallRun

    RedBallRun Been here awhile

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    It's fabulous and really satisfying for those of us working away on the TET project that there is so much excitement and chatter about it on here and elsewhere.

    Our fingers are hovering over the "Go Live" button with only a couple of little issues to iron out first. We are as impatient as you guys to share it with you [​IMG]

    There has been alot of offers of help to recce and feedback on the 34,000+ km of the TET and many of you here will have been part of that. Thankyou. [​IMG]

    In helping us to recce it, we have sent out pre-release sections of the TET to folk to use.

    They are just that - "pre-release" - and may be very different from the TET v1.0 that comes out on the website. As such they may/will include illegal, inrideable or downright dangerous elements (for example, Croatia and Bosnia are still littered with landmines and we need to be careful with our routing and explicit warnings against straying from the path or wild camping).

    If people treat these "pre-releases" as gospel it's likely that issues will occur - legal or medical - and that the TET will then start to develop an unjustified reputation as unreliable or dangerous. What's more locals will get pissed off by these "hoodlums" riding illegal or unsustainable tracks.

    For these reasons and the good of the project (and at risk of sounding like I'm trying to bolt the stable door too late!), can I ask those who have "black market" copies of TET gpx's to hold off sharing them? That was the understanding that they were shared with recce riders in the first place.

    When we do finally go live, the GPXs will be downloadable free of charge and those downloads will be updated as frequently as changes come in - that could be (please God no [​IMG] ) on a daily basis! So there will be no point in going anywhere but the project's website for the GPXs and no point in sharing the GPXs on other sites such as Wikiloc - they'll be out of date by the time they are posted!

    If you're keen to get involved in development then the local Linesman are keen to hear from you. E-mails follow the system of XXX@transeurotrail.org where XXX is the International registration i.e BG for Bulgaria, RO for Romania, AL for Albania and so on.

    All the best and thanks for everyones enthusiasm for the project!

    John
  18. DGR

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    Are there any specific area's that you could use some help with?
    Summer vacation just started for a lot of people and I'm sure there are some guys who'd love to explore part of the TET.
  19. RedBallRun

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    North eastern Italy, Northern Spain to Finistere, Greece - for starters ;-)
  20. Schussboelie

    Schussboelie Been here awhile

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    I think you can forget that, South-Tyrol is really strict when it comes to off-roading in the area.
    There are plenty of awesome paved passes of roads (and even those are getting some restrictions) but accessible dirt tracks? No such luck...