Transportugal

Discussion in 'Europe' started by Happe, Feb 21, 2017.

  1. Happe

    Happe Adventure Bike Spanner Man

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    I'm currently planning on doing the Transportugal Trail in April.
    The newest entries I could find here were from 2010/2011

    Has anyone done it in the last year or two?
    Any route closures or private land disputes we should know of?
    Can somone point out some places to stay for the nights?
    We plan on going on EXC450s and want to travel as light as posibile, no tent or sleeping bag.

    regards
    Stefan
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  2. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    I'm an XT660Z Tenere owning Brit, (from The Wirral), living in Portugal (Viseu) and I can recommend the Trans-Portugal. I know you've mentioned April but for other readers it's worth mentioning hunting season in Portugal is between August and March and is on most open countryside taking place on Thursdays and Sundays and any PT bank holiday. It can get very dangerous riding / walking / dog walking during these times because hunters regard the open 'public' countryside as their personal playground (have no idea about 'beyond target') and stuff anyone else. There are signs on tracks denoting if the area is a hunting zone ( https://pigletinportugal.com/2011/08/14/hunting-signs-in-portugal/ )

    Back to biking... I can also recommend http://www.bikersbase.com/ as somewhere you can rest up and use tool facilities. They're bikers themselves.

    If you plan to 'wild camp' you have to be very wary of starting a fire (not so bad in spring time) as it's forbidden as we have a lot of forest fires.

    Nearly every track and trail you will ride will pop out into a Portuguese village, in which there will be a couple of cafes. Food is awesome and very, very cheap which goes for the cost of lager and wine. Lidl stores are everywhere too so you can stock up on daily stuff. They're also very cheap.

    It's possible to travel all of Portugal, nearly, off road with a bit of planning. If a track is not gated or barred by some other sort of visual deterrent then it's generally public access. This site shows more of the tracks than perhaps google does. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/41.6596/-6.2597

    If you do venture on to the motorway network you have to be aware that it's pretty much all toll and you'll need to sort out pre payment from Via Verde / Scut http://www.portugaltolls.com/en/web/portal-de-portagens/home

    The cops here are mainly the G.N.R. who are generally pro-tourist and in the main speak English, but they will give you a hard time if caught speeding in village areas or don't have all your dox with you. Typically for mainland Europe, it is common for huge on the spot fines and vehicle seizures to happen so just like the U.K., square away the legal stuff.

    Places to go.....well it's a large country with only 11 million people living in it. It will appear the entire country is yours when you arrive and consequently even the popular venues will hardly have anyone knocking about. If you're coming in via Santander then the Spanish Picos are awesome and all Portugal cities are a sight to be seen. My personal fave rides are Serra da Estrela which is 2000 metres up and you can ride to the summit ( on tarmac ) and Serra da Arada and Serra do Caramulo (huge motor festival in Septembers / http://www.caramulo-motorfestival.com/ ) both of which have fully rideable tracks along the top where all the wind turbines are.

    Forgot to say....bike shops aren't like the U.K. and are few and far between, existing mainly in the south (Lisbon). They don't tend to carry stock but do tend to have tubes and tyres as most bikes in the countryside are 'old-school'.

    Just for a laugh check out https://www.olx.pt/carros-motos-e-barcos/motociclos-scooters/ for the price and availability of bikes here. (there's no ebay)

    PM me if you need anything else.

    Here's a couple of other web sites.



    http://ondoibili-basauritik.blogspot.pt/2011/11/la-transportugal-en-moto.html

    https://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=8462614

    http://www.thebikerguide.co.uk/bikerfriendlyaccommodationportugal.html
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  3. PHILinFRANCE

    PHILinFRANCE Long timer

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    Great info Mac Ka , we'll be doing the TransPortugal north to south starting 10th / 11th May on our way to Maroc , northerner myself Lancaster but lived in SW France for the past 12 years
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  4. Happe

    Happe Adventure Bike Spanner Man

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    Thank you Mac Ka,
    that is very valuable information.
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  5. TheBritAbroad

    TheBritAbroad Just ride it!

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    Mac Ka. Thanks for that info above. Really interesting links. I'm also a Brit in Portugal (been here - down south - over twenty years and ride a KTM 1290) and I'd never heard of the bikers place, nor seen the open street map trail guides. Useful stuff!
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  6. Mac Ka

    Mac Ka just a guy on a bike ..

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    arhh but, meu Portuguese e ainda muito merda..........unlike yours I bet ;-)
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  7. TheBritAbroad

    TheBritAbroad Just ride it!

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    To learn the lingo get a Portuguese or Brazilian girlfriend. Adds...incentive.:)
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  8. NickW909

    NickW909 Been here awhile

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    I've done 2 trans PT routes, the first in 2013 which I think is the original and another which runs closer to the Spanish border in 2014. Both are fairly easy tracks but in April expect plenty of water in some sections especially on the eastern route. You shouldn't have any access problems if your cutting off around Baja.
    Great riding, excellent food and good wine. You can find a room from 15 to 30 euro.

    Nick
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  9. PHILinFRANCE

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    Hi Nick , hows things , hope alls good
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    NickW909 Been here awhile

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    Hello Phil, I'm in Spain for awhile, not far from Malaga, working on a temporary basis but looking for something more permanent.
    Hope you have a great time in Morocco, it's a great place to ride.

    Nick.
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    PHILinFRANCE Long timer

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    Cheers , it'll be my 4th visit , if its a bar you're working in i could always divert for a beer :drink
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  12. Happe

    Happe Adventure Bike Spanner Man

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    thanks Nick,
    Would you have, by any chance, have the original route as a GPX file?
    The one that looks best on Wikiloc is close to the border and would be good to have an alternative if water becomes an issue.

    Working on Petrol Waypoints, KTM Dealers (just in case) and Camping as we might change our minds and do camping after all.
    transportugal.JPG

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  13. PHILinFRANCE

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  14. Happe

    Happe Adventure Bike Spanner Man

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    Yes, that's the one
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    NickW909 Been here awhile

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    Happe, check your PM.
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    PM checked, mail send :thumb
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    Hello,

    Be sure to check the Touratech track, they're lunching the "Adventure Country Tracks" project: one trans-country track per year. They've done Greece and Portugal already. Here's the GPX and the website, with a few paragraphs on each stage (5 total, from Bragança to Tavira). Mostly offroad. The website has also a route from and to Lisbon, but the track doesn't.

    Here's the website: http://www.adventurecountrytracks.com/portfolio/act-portugal/

    Btw, the police is GNR (rural areas) and PSP (mostly on cities), and they both are lurking for speeding and alcohol - the limit is 0,5g/L, roughly a pint of beer (if drank slowly) or a 20cl glass of wine. More than that and you get fined. Above 0,8g/L it's worse, and after 1,2g/L it's considered a crime.

    Be aware of wild bore and bulls, although if you see any, you probably aren't supposed to be there. Peolple are friendly, but don't expect them to speak english in rural areas without turism. If you need anything, let me know.

    Good luck!

    Your friendly portuguese inmate.

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  18. bingbong

    bingbong Long timer

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    Great thread! I've been living in Portugal 11 years and hardly done any off roading.. I know I know, but promised myself it's about time I started some "me time" . The trans Portugal is all the encouragement I need. Just deciding what bike to use... as in I will need to buy a suitable one...
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  19. Happe

    Happe Adventure Bike Spanner Man

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    We are back now for a few days. Unfortunately we were quite busy to get some private things in order first before we could sit down and get the Trip to digital paper.
    I have started a Blog on my Shop Website and so far have written the first half
    Enjoy it and give me your opinion
    https://www.adventure-gear.co.uk/blog/page/1

    This is how the tracklog looked afterwards
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  20. TheBritAbroad

    TheBritAbroad Just ride it!

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    Great report. You came right by me as I'm living in Sao Bras de Alportel - I would have bought you both some better sardines if I'd known you were around. :-)

    Your report as well as the others in this thread are a great resource for me as well as @bingbong above. I've been here 25 years and have never done much proper long distance off-road in this country either, so thanks to all for the tips and routes.
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