Trial specific helmet?

Discussion in 'Trials' started by kellymac530, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 44 years

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    I have jammed my neck twice because of visors (the shade 'bills' not a clear lens in front of my face) and sections with unmarked over hanging trees and limbs.

    Please remember to mark them with a spiral of ribbon so they stand out!

    ...because I won't ride without some kind of helmet bill, because that puts glare into my eyes and behind my glasses.
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  2. StuInFH

    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    Cuz I wanted a FF and it took me three years to getting around to buying one? Seriously, thanks to this thread, finally ditched my FF MX helmet for a FF DH MTB helmet, the 661 Comp Shifted, white, with 14! large vents. Eye port much larger than mx helmet. QR strap too. Love it. $65 shipped. Still the only one in club with FF though. I like the last few teeth I have left. ;-)
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  3. Twin-shocker

    Twin-shocker Long timer

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    You would find riding a lot more comfortable if you got a purpose designed open face trials helmet. See if you can try one at an event..............it will make a big difference.
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  4. kellymac530

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    I weighed my HJC modular flip up helmet, it was 1800 grams. My Carbon fiber TLD MX helmet was 1400g. Better, but still 500g heavier than the Trr.

    I have come up with an idea to see if I can lessen the tug on the MX helmet visor though for now. I have a spare visor for my TLD that the paint is chipped on. I am thinking of cutting it up so that air passes through it even easier. Leaving the last inch or inch and a half in tact so that when i rock my head down I still get that sun blocking effect but the majority of the rear part of the visor will be open for air to pass through hopefull lessening the tug....I doubt it will stop much but worth a try on my spare visor.

    I wish the Airoh was more readily available here in the states so I could try one....I would be happy to drop the cash on one but with so many people nay saying I doubt I will drop the coin just to see.
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    And if you really want full face Airoh has the Aviator at only 950g. Wow that's a nice full face, and looks like the same venting as the trials version...
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  7. StuInFH

    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    I've tried one. I'm not buying a chinbar is making that big a cooling difference at 5mph. I also rode with no helmet as a test. ;-) My MTB DH helmet has 14 vents and is 1/8th the cost of an Aviator, BTW. And if anyone uses that "If you have a $100 head..." argument, he hasn't kept up with research and testing.

    Oldar did a training class at the club this summer, still wearing his FF. ;-) Trials is hard, granite is even harder.
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  8. Twin-shocker

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    Never ever seen a serious WTC rider with a full face helmet, and I would guess if there was any advantage to FF, the WTC riders would certainly be using them?

    Not sure that using a cycle helmet is a great idea for motorcycle use, as I think there is a very good reason the cycle helmets are built lighter than M/C ones, which may compromise protection in a very bad crash?
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  9. ridenm

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    Here in the US, AMA-sanctioned events require the use of DOT or equivalent helmets, which means a real motorcycle helmet, not a bicycle helmet. However...

    Modern high-quality full-face bicycle helmets for downhill and BMX are lighter than their motorcycle equivalent and have better venting. They don't have to undergo the same testing or meet the same standards for impact penetration and dispersal, and the retention system may differ. In my opinion, the job they are designed to do is comparable to the kind of impact protection a trials rider is likely to require. We are not talking off-road racing or motocross, with the potential for much higher speeds and impact forces here.

    Therefore, despite AMA sanction requirements I have purchased BMX helmets for my kids to ride trials. At the club level compliance is unlikely to be an issue. The helmets were significantly less expensive than comparable MC helmets (like one third the price -- with three growing kids that makes a big difference) and offer good full-face protection, retention, and fit. And the kids picked out their own colors and graphics which increases their enthusiasm for riding in general.
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  10. DerViking

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    I'll second that one. My bicycle helmets are in some ways much better designed than my moto helmets. Less likely to survive a velocity crash where you bounce awhile, but probably better "crush zones" for that single hard head dab that is the big problem in trials. Some of the bicycle companies, like Giro, claim that you get 110% of the cooling of a bare head from their helmet. I sorta doubt that, but they never bothered me when I was sweating my sorry ass uphill.

    I rocked a BMX until I was required to use a DOT helmet. I ran a 35 doller quader special from RMATV for a year, then bucked up for a proper trials helmet. It was worth it, but I bought boots first.
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  11. Handy

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    I wear a Giro Remedy FF downhill Mt. bike helmet for trials, it is lightweight and vents really well. It weighs 1050g and I am pretty sure you wouldn't get pulled over and ticketed for wearing it. Downhill mt. bike helmets look pretty similar to MX helmets and you can buy a DOT sticker to slap on it if you are that worried about getting a ticket. Downhill mt. bike racers also take some serious diggers at high speeds.
    If the wind buffeting hurts your neck so bad you should really think about getting rid of your visor, I have the Fly Trekker and I had to ditch the visor because the wind catching it seriously fucks my neck up on any long ride at highway speeds.
    Hope you can find something that works for you.
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  12. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 44 years

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    Careful, Nanny gov't may be recording this :ear
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  13. StuInFH

    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    Like I said, Oldar came to our club to give a training class, he wears a FF. You didn't really mean there must be no advantage to wearing one, did you? I think you meant that the disadvantages (primarily comfort I bet) outweigh the advantages. Obviously you are in the near 100% majority, but that is a personal decision, unless you are a dad responsible for minors, see above. cheers
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