Triumph scrambler hacked?

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by silverdog, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. silverdog

    silverdog Been here awhile

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    Anyone hack a newer Triumph scrambler?
    Any opinions, ideas, advice, bad idea,enough power, torque ???

    Thanks...
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  2. Mastercylinder

    Mastercylinder Been here awhile

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    Yes. Had Jay at DMC hack my 2013 Scrambler. Can't post pics here, (but I have posted some pics over at CURD forum). Depends on what you what to do with it. I wanted something for camping with the dogs. The power is sufficient to roll down the hwy. at speed, but like all boxed vehicles, headwind is a speed reduction factor. The Scrambler provides enough torque, but like some people more power is better. I like what Jay did. Very nice hack. That being said, the way the hack bottom brackets are installed and the way the triple tree raked out the front fork, cuts away some ground clearance. About one and a quarter inch.
    I don't have any regrets when I see that my dogs are enjoying it. Hopes this helps.
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  3. silverdog

    silverdog Been here awhile

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    What hack did you put on?

    Think a different hack would get you the ground clearance?

    Happy with the handling?

    Riding a ural now so the triumph probably seem like a powerhouse..
    Thank for the info....
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  4. FirstPath

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  5. SwampFox883R

    SwampFox883R Been here awhile

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    This couple from New Mexico are well traveled on their Scrambler/Velorex rig, and they rode right along with Ural rigs on East Texas county dirt roads during the 2012 Caddo Lake sidecar rally:

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  6. Mastercylinder

    Mastercylinder Been here awhile

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    silverdog
    I had a Ural too. 2 to be precise. Tough as nails those Urals, but a tad too slow. Took a lot of long trips with the Patrol and never had any serious problems.
    The sidecar is a M72D, (the one that looks like the Ural's), and the clearance has nothing to do with the sidecar, (a lot of clearance), but the bottom mounting brackets. Jay made sure the sidecar was attached securely. He came across and under both bottom frame rails of the Scrambler and secured the hack to both the right and left frame rail. Very secure. No welding. The brake line to the sidecar is a quick release, (attached to bike's rear brake line), and the electrical is a plug, so you can detach the sidecar from the bike without any problems. The handling is very good. So far going down the road at speed hasn't been an issue. I've cruised at 70 very smoothly. No problems. I have experience slow speed wobble, ( less than 10 MPH), but not an issue if you're ready for it, (had the same thing happen to me with the Ural, even with the steering dampener adjusted). There are a few things I've read about how to solve this, but haven't try them yet.
    Again, hope this helps.
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  7. jaydmc

    jaydmc Long timer

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    For what it is worth, We have made a new front lower mount design that does not cut into any of the ground clearance. Every thing is still 100% bolt on. We have a batch of the triple tree's in the works that should be done in about 3 weeks, all but one of this batch is sold.
    We do a lot of the Triumphs, we have two new T-100's in the shop right now.
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  8. Mastercylinder

    Mastercylinder Been here awhile

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    Do you have any pics of this new front mount on a Triumph Classic? Please post if you do. Might want to change ours out if this is better.
    Thanks
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  9. Motoblag

    Motoblag Replacing skill with will

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    I've responded to his post in the Scrambler thread in Beasts. :1drink

    Also the Velorex has been gone for a while, replaced with a Dauntless tub.
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  10. DirtyDR

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    This was down at Sipapu last year, pretty sure it is the same rig as above.

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  11. RedMenace

    RedMenace Adventure Sidecar

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    what sort of fuel economy, range from a tank are you guys getting with the hacked scramblers? Matt, did you see a drop in mileage when you switched from the Velorex to the DMC?
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  12. RidingDonkeys

    RidingDonkeys Purveyor of Awesome

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    I'm pulling in the 30's with a hacked Bonnie. Normally around 33mpg.

    Plenty of power and all day comfort. I ride it more than any bike we own. If it were to get stolen today, I'd be buying another tomorrow. No questions asked.
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  13. silverdog

    silverdog Been here awhile

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    How's first gear,low enough? Did you gear down?
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  14. JustKip

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    Speaking of modern Bonnevilles; what did they do about the spoke problem they were having? A friend has an '07 I can get for a very reasonable price, but it has a broken spoke right now (and I wonder how long till more break?)
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  15. RidingDonkeys

    RidingDonkeys Purveyor of Awesome

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    1st gear is just fine. No changes in gearing at all.

    Also, not a single spoke issue. I haven't run into anyone with that problem yet either.
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  16. RidingDonkeys

    RidingDonkeys Purveyor of Awesome

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    Silverdog, my impressions on the Triumph as a tug are in the thread linked below. Keep in mind that I have a Bonnie and you're thinking Scrambler. The internals are all the same, but the suspension is a wee bit different.

    I don't think you'll have any ground clearance issues. That has been my only complaint about the rig.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=818289
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  17. Motoblag

    Motoblag Replacing skill with will

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    MPG ranges between 20 MPG (loaded two up, headwind, throttle pinned) to 45 MPG for 30 MPH scenic stretches like the Dempster. No difference in fuel economy between the Dauntless and Velorex tubs as far as I could see. Range on a tank would be somewhere between 90 and 200 miles. Usually I'd get 30 MPG, so about 135 miles until the bike is bone dry.

    Midway through 2008 they changed the rear hub design to be stronger. Guess which one my '08 has?

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    As for gearing, I think the Scrambler is geared too high for sidecar use. Idle is indicated 10 MPH in first gear. Lots of clutch work in traffic and any kind of interesting off pavement use. Thankfully it's easy to rectify by swapping that rear sprocket.

    My two issues with the Scrambler are lack of range on a tank and lack of power. Both can be fixed but to get good solutions costs a lot of dough.
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  18. JustKip

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    DMC used to offer a transfer tank with pump in thier M72 chair. Seems like it would be easy to plumb it into the FI system, and use the stock tank and petcock to gravity feed the chair tank for refills.
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  20. airspro

    airspro Been here awhile

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    Yep , that's why I went and left mine alone and got a bigger motored bike for the tug .
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