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Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by danger_dave, May 29, 2006.
I have and you appear to be the ONLY person that wholeheartedly support this bike.
I wholeheartedly support this bike.
Hmmm - let me amend that last statement.
You appear to be the ONLY person that wholeheartedly support this bike - in print - as a magazine review - or as a online motorcycle review site.
I realize some of you owners "wholeheartedly support this bike" but the media types - Dave excluded - still appear to me as regarding this bike as a looker not a do-er with no particular substance. Looks good - draws a crowd - spin around town bike.
With a finalization that you should not expect this bike to be more than a pavement cruiser in Oldtyme-Scrambler clothing.
I think you might be expecting the wrong things from the wrong bikes....
My Uly is not a DRZ.... My RoadKing is not an R1....
This scrambler is not a DRZ either.
The majority of reviews that I read said that it did well on Dirt Roads and gravel. I doubt that many really tried to push it further. Danger Dave is by definition... Danger Dave... He took the bike places others didn't and he was impressed by its abilities. I think the bike does exactly what it is designed for and looks great while doing it.
Gas mileage is right near 50 miles per gallon. I'm in break in though so I'm not really hammering the throttle.
First time poster here...enjoying the banter.
Re: Mileage: After 750 miles on the new bike over the last two weeks, it's around 45-50 mpg.
Re: Expectations and disappointment...none here. But as a newer rider, how can you not like it? I can understand the amusement and skepticism of offroad and sport enthusiasts---it ain't either. But what it is is mighty fine, as everyone whose seen it and rode it can attest.
Its been an excellent rookie bike for me. Nothing but compliments on it as well.
Welcome Pistol, to our loony-bin. Yah you know I have been on some forums that just as soon as someone diverges or does not "go with the flow" of the thread it turns in to a F*!@ you you don't know S^#! about good blah blah blah......
I appreciate it here that this thread has gone on with some real good feed back.
I contend that real world owners tend to genuinely like this bike, media I read think it's a looker not a do-er, and Dave is sticking to his original post - best thing to come along since salvation.
For me I'll reserve final judgement until I can actually ride one - problem being, the ONLY dealer here is 300 miles away from me. On paper it looks like what I want (have said that all along) Twin - Non Jap - Air cooled - Old School look I just wished those in the industry wholeheartedly supported the Scrambler.
With the Uly gone and the Scrambler being a new offering [sort of] , I think I may see a new "mission" for me here.
Folks have mentioned the weight and the "puny" engine.
I just did some interesting comparisons with the BMW F650GS Dakar [which coincidentally, I have listed in Flea Market ].
Published [Dry] Weight:
Scrambler: 451 pounds
Dakar: 425 pounds
Scrambler: 54 HP
Dakar: 50 HP
Using the 7 lb. / HP urban motorcycle myth conversion factor, it would appear that one could expect the performance of these two bikes to pretty much be a wash.
I know it isn't quite that simple and the published figures may or may not be real-world accurate, but it suggests that someone comfortable with the performance level of a larger bore thumper like the KLR or GS might be satisfied with the Scrambler's engine.
I wouldn't want it for my only bike, but it sure seems like it would be nice addition to the stable for running around town and afternoon jaunts in the countryside...plus it is cool as hell.
If I can get my bikes sold and the Geezer Glide paid for, I might just run down to LR and eyeball one of these.
I'm already thinking of a clever title for my long term review....uh oh.
Here we go again....well....defintely maybe.
It's all in what you compare to, isn't it?
I don't know that I'd want it for an only, either; and I'm not sure I wouldn't go for a Bonnie instead.
But if it's a second bike (or 3d, 4th.....), or for someone who does weekend pleasure rides, or as a 'cruiser' that won't make you pucker on a dirt road, I think it would be a blast.
As to power/weight issues, it's got as much beans as an 883, at 100 pounds lighter.
I forgot to include a comparison of published torque specs.... which may be more indicative of a any bike's performance in the real world:
Triumph Scrambler: 51 ft-lbs
BMW Dakar: 44 ft-lbs
[assuming of course that the companies' conversion from those Newton- Meter thingees is correct ]
The two bikes even cost about the same.
The Scrambler is obviously a niche bike...I think intended as a entry level bike for some, but primarily to appeal to motorcyclists' sense of nostalgia and style. At that level it seems to be on target.
To some extend H-D has made a fortune tapping into that sentiment. The motorcycling intelligentsia have been whining for years that Harleys and their owners are testaments to style over substance and performance....underpowered, overweight, etc.
Meanwhile, millions of Harley owners obliviously donne their costumes and have fun riding their overweight and underpowed bikes each weekend while the stockholders make money.
These are our toys. This is who we are.
don't do it....
i'm selling the roadking and want to put in a pool.... and if you buy one... then i may have to buy one... and i really can't afford one right now... but how can i not afford one... seems like a great idea...
ok... do it.
Thad' be me, thank you verrry much. $
Sad though I own stock in HD but not a HD.....
We3--thanks and glad to be part of the 'argument'! Wouldn't enjoy it any other way!
Entering the motorcycle universe via a Triumph (vs the 'expected' midlife HD route) has its benefits...for one, ease of handling and motoring for a beginner. Second, the nostalgia trip for brit bikes is different and, dare I say, tres hipper from an urban perspective.
Suburban HD-riding neighbors and friends, who profess condescending amusement at my purchase of the Scrambler, want to know when I plan to "step up to the real thing".
Well, now that I have the modern retro bike, my eyes are firmly set on experiencing the real thing---getting my hands on an old Norton Commando or BSA Lightning.
come on in... the water is just fine....
have a sip of the BuellAid
and my roadking is looking more and more like it's for sale....
I've got a pretty serious bite on my FXDX....if I can get some activity on the Dakar, the Scrambler may become real option.
I think the Triumph Dealer in LR has merged with the BMW dealership....hmmm...could open up some interesting trade possibilities....
I'm just sayin'.....
I showed the wife GaelicDog's photo of the blue Scrambler.
"It looks heavy."
Damn....I think the girl is learning something.
Buy it... Ride it... Put all the good farkles on it.... and then when you decide to sell it... I'm in.
But may I humbly suggest you break it in a little harder... don't want to start any it uses too much oil thoughts
I like the
'it's not a CR250 line'
I don't think the many of the other magazines have done what Kiwi Rider did to it - or had the opportunity perhaps.
I firmly believe the bike is a viable alternative to a 650 dakar or wee strom for the same type of riding.
They have off roading limits too - but the Scrambler is just as capable. They all go as far as the rubber will let them.
A lifetime ago I bought a Honda Super 90 from Bud Ekins in Sherman Oaks.
I wanted a Triumph but could't afford one. It was painful to spend so much time at the shop with the objects of my desire. I had a terrible case of unrequited lust.
I picked up my Scrambler two weeks ago. I love this bike. The competition pipes sound great, the fit and finish is first rate and I'm very impressed by the handling. There is plenty of power for my riding style and great torque.
Last Sunday morning my new Scrambler was the star of the show at The Rock Store among some very impressive machinery. The positive comments from other riders was a great validation of my bike and my decision to buy it.
Forty Years Ago