Triumph Scrambler

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by danger_dave, May 29, 2006.

  1. Donkey

    Donkey Been here awhile

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    should I go with a stock size 130 or what are the benefits of running a 140 rear TKC80?

    cheers
  2. soilasylum

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  3. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    I *might* be a tad biased, but I honestly believe Kriega makes the best gear out there for a variety of reasons. Hopefully, the fact that these shots were taken waaaay before I became the distributor for them in the US, bears that claim out. Paid full price for all of everything! :D What you see there is essentially the UScombo40 (40 liters is plenty for any weekend ride), used in various different configurations, including - with the help of the optional US Tank adapter - as a tank bag.

    I still use precisely the same bags, although I have since upgraded to the new Alloy Hook Strap mounting system and picked up a US-30 Drypack to build bigger combos for longer trips and another US-10 to use up front. Camping gear goes on the rack, everything else on the rear seat and a little 10-liter tank bag up front.

    I actually just sold this bike and am in the process of building a new one, for which I'll have some racks fabbed up to accommodate the new Overlander 60 soft pannier system, which will be pretty sweet. That way I can free up some rear seat real estate to take the missus on extended rides... along with a couple of RotopaX fuel cans to make up for the woeful tank range on these splendid machines.

    Full spec at www.kriega.us

    Let me know if you need any more info.


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    Michael


  4. Speed King

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    Nice set up- you carry extra fuel? ^^
  5. tvscum

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    What are those rims? Are they aluminum? Has anybody else had problems with bent stock rims when off roading?
  6. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Those are just powder coated standard rims. I did some light trail riding on em without any drama, but my understanding is they're not really up to aggressive rough riding (which the Scram isn't really designed for out of the box), although I have seen some folks on here get away with it.

    Planning to grab a set of Excel rims from Woody's for the new project :evil, which is aiming to be about as capable off-road as a Scram can be without going for a few more inches of travel, messing with the geometry, throwing in a 21" front, extending the swing-arm and all that jazz.
  7. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Thanks. No extra fuel at the moment. although I was planing to pick up one of those canvas fuel cells to strap to the Kriegas. But that was before the Overlander platforms came out...
  8. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    140 IMHO:

    • Larger upright contact patch for most situations
    • More sidewall area for the twisties
    • Looks meaner! :evil
    Slimmer tires might be a bit better for cutting through loose / slippery stuff to find traction off-road, and may keep the slim look Triumph wanted for the bike, but I immediately one size up at the front and rear and liked it better.
  9. tvscum

    tvscum Been here awhile

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    I researched Excel rims a few months back. Excel told me they only make silver to fit the scrambler, not black. Do you have any idea what Woody's will charge? I assume you would ship them your OEM hubs and have them laced up.

    I bent one rim already and sent it to Buchanan's to be straightened for about $110. I bent it again recently and pounded it out (almost). Then, my buddy told me, "Hey, if you had aluminum rims on that Scrambler the rim would break instead of bend." Any truth to that statement? I know the aluminum is stronger, but I would rather bend than break.
  10. tvscum

    tvscum Been here awhile

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    There is no information on Woody's web site specific to Triumph Modern Classics.
    http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/home.htm

    I emailed Woody's about fitting a Scrambler and here's the quote:

    "We can lace new black 19 x 2.5, and 17 x 3.5 excel rims to your stock hubs. They will require new spokes, which we can build stronger wheels when we replace them with new ones. The excel rims only come in silver, which we have to strip and re-anodize to make them colors. If you sent in your hubs, we can lace them with new black excel rims, stainless spokes/nipples for $1100 + shipping. We also can seal tube type wheels for tubeless tires, they do have to be 19'' and smaller. We only charge $99 per wheel and they come with a 1 yr. warranty against issues with the seal."

    I believe Buchanan's will do black Sun rims with SS spokes for about $1,000 + shipping for the pair. The Buchanan site also only lists Excel rims in silver. I am sure they could re-anodize them black for a fee too. I am seeing some special requirements for the rear spokes listed on the Buchanan site for Modern Classics, including the Scrambler:

    http://www.buchananspokes.net/products/spoke_kits_triumph.asp

    At the bottom of that page it says for the rear:

    "Cast aluminum hub is all inside laced. Slightly smaller diameter on brake side and requires four different spokes. Most stock spokes were 7-8 gauge. These spokes are larger than stock diameter for durability, but will not require hub to be drilled."
  11. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Standard Excels do only seem to come in silver, but Woody's can powder coat the rims before assembling for an additional $150. You can send them your OEM hubs, or also get a set of Talon ones to fit. I'd get a quote direct from Woody's, but you'll be looking at something in the region of $1,100 for a pair of rims, built with 40-count SuperSize SuperLace stainless spokes and nipples. Then there's the powder coating cost and extra if you want the rims sealing for tubeless.

    The short travel suspension on the Scram is going to definitely increased the risk of damaging wheels, whether that be cracked or bent. With godawful stock suspension, those chances are dramatically increased, so if you haven't already it makes sense to upgrade the shocks and forks to start with before dropping big bucks on snazzy rims.

    If you have already replaced those parts with something good and adjustable and set them up for rough riding, you'll be in the same boat as me. So, I guess we'll find out if anything less than 6" travel results in busted wheels of some description, no matter how good the rims are.

    Regardless, I'm going to give it a shot. :evil
  12. amanlikemike

    amanlikemike Recoverin speedfreak

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    Ha! Looks like you just beat me to it!
  13. tvscum

    tvscum Been here awhile

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    Yes, I already have Bitubo front fork cartridges and YSS rear shocks. They did not help with the bent rims. One more thing on the notes above...

    The Scram stock rims are 19 x 2.5 inches, and 17 x 3.5 inches. Both Sun and Excel make the stock rear size, but for the front, it looks like Sun only makes a 19 x 2.75; while Excel makes the stock front size. No biggie, though.
  14. professorv

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    One additional option for rims are complete wheel sets. I got mine from Dubya USA (www.dubyausa.com) for about $1350 shipped from California to Chicago. They're Talon hubs mated to an Excel rim on the rear and a Behr on the front. It'll save you the down time of sending your hubs away and you'll still have your original hubs and rims to do whatever with. I sold mine to recoup some of the cost. Couldn't be happier with the rims and Dubya's service.

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  15. henryII

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    I got mine for the total of 700USD, 500 for the rims and 200 for the building.

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  16. Texrock

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  17. henryII

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    Hi Texrock, they are spanish morad alloy rims. I got a wheelbuilder to put them togheter for me cheap, as he is retired and basicly do old Triumphs Bsa rebuilding. I also went for a 4.25" inch rear rim, that open a set of Metzler 150 rear tyre. Ps a lot of nice Italien Scramblers out there.

    Here is one with the tyre on
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    Cheers
  18. ClineDesign

    ClineDesign Grandpa

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    What rear fender is that? I like it a lot.
  19. henryII

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    Hi it is from Pete Waldram, check out http://www.pjglassfibre.com

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  20. Maxacceleration

    Maxacceleration Awol

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    Henry, your bike looks tits. Lets see a current full view.
    In fact many Scramblers here are looking good.
    Nice job gentlemen - the black wheelsets are looking good too. :thumb