Triumph Scrambler

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by danger_dave, May 29, 2006.

  1. xaman

    xaman Been here awhile

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    I'm still on my scrambler, and already know that the Tiger will do everything better, except looking good... Like Black tiger, I get beat up a bit riding it, and am beginning to consider if that cost is worth it to preserve my vanity :D

    Besides aesthetics, the other major benefit of the scrambler ( for me ) is that I ride it in a much more "laid back" manner. The Tiger evokes adrenaline, the scrambler proves a sedative. I slow down and enjoy the scenery, smell the roses so to speak. I know I'm safer on the scrambler, tend to ride it at 50-70% of the speeds I'd ride the tiger. I know the tiger isn't a race bike, but something about the tripe, the brakes, suspension, etc begs to go faster.

    I'm pretty sure for me it's only a matter of time till I make the switch, but I'm grateful for the last 11k miles on the scrambler. And who knows, maybe i'll win the lottery and be able to have them both in the garage for long enough to see which one gets the long term nod...
  2. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    I actually don't ride the Tiger that much quicker on the dirt. It's just that now I can look at the scenery more because I don't have to pick the smoothest line any more.
  3. TerryK

    TerryK Ulysses

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    Blacktiger, over here in Australia the Tigers have been getting some attention of late, check out Tigers round Australia

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739887

    or Tigers in the Flinders ranges

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=878437

    [​IMG]
  4. Skidmarksg

    Skidmarksg n00b

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    Hi, I assume you meant lose weight but tell me more. I have heard of this before, see Jack Wild, but is it a simple case of just blocking off the ports on the head and the return lines to the sump and let the oil find its own way south?
    Skiddy
  5. gseur

    gseur Been here awhile

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    I don't know Jack Wild, tell me more.
    I was thinking about the streetmaster kit witch use the subframe as an oil cooler
    http://www.streetmaster.net/oil-cooler.html
  6. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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  7. duckman

    duckman co conspirator

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    great helmet, who makes it?
  8. TerryK

    TerryK Ulysses

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    We have plenty of dust !!!

    Terry
  9. Skidmarksg

    Skidmarksg n00b

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    Sorry my Brain Fart it should have read Jack Pine.
    http://www.bikeexif.com/triumph-t100
    A quote fronm the article "Thanks to all for the insightful comments. The oil cooler was the crux of this build. Initially I was committed to a minimal cooler using a Spurgin heat exchanger but could not achieve the lean effect I wanted. My brother’s encouragement (at times dangerous but always fun) pushed me to do the final build without it. Before I pulled the trigger, I talked with Bill Himmelsbach (http://www.eurosports.net/staf... about his scrambler builds. Bill knows these bikes inside and out and assured me that the oil cooler loop is independent from the lubrication circuit and that capping the feed does not stress the pump. He runs a big bore kit and mild cams without a cooler. After 3000 miles (including a track day and a flogging by the moto journalist Alan Cathcart), Bill disassembled the engine and saw no unusual wear. Furthermore, Bill said there was no color change around the piston wrist pin, an area that turns a telltale gold tint with overheating. That said, I offer the Spurgin cooler set-up as a no cost option. I do not run one on the development mule, but plan to install it when the bike is prepared for my Delhi to Leh-Ladakh ride next spring. Feel free to email directly with additional questions at james@hammarhead.com ."

    I have been using Bill Gately's oil coolers for a couple of years with out incident. http://www.bonnevilleperformance.com/.

    No connection with any of these suppliers other than a customer of Bill Gately
    YMMV
    Skiddy
  10. Scaredofthedirt

    Scaredofthedirt Been here awhile

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    Hey Vic,

    Buy one of each! Works very well for me :clap

    As much as I lurve the Mighty Scrambler if I could only have one, it would be the Tiger for all the reasons you list.
  11. Sam il Cinghio

    Sam il Cinghio dirty noob

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    Ciao Vic,
    I had a Tiger 800 too, bought when my Scrambler was "on working", sold when finally the Scrambler was "ready to rumble".

    Tiger it's REALLY a GREAT BIKE, but without soul (IMHO)... Scrambler it's... it's....... Scrambler it's MY BIKE, "il mio ferro" ;)
    I sold the Tiger one year ago, and I don't regret anything! :-)

    Now I'm ready to start for the Turkey: I wouldn't use any bike than my old Scrambler ;)
  12. icedmocha

    icedmocha Adventurer

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    Quick, and simple question: what year, if at all, did the scramblers switch to fuel injection? I'm considering picking a used one up shortly, and would prefer fi (I think?). Thanks.
  13. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    2008 in Europe. 2009 in the USA.
    I had a 2008 EFI. IMO the EFI is more easily tuned by flashing a new/different tune into the ECU using Tuneecu. There will always be different opinions, of course, but Carbs are really "last century" tech.
  14. bighead3

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    I hope someone with a triumph tank bag for the scrambler can help me out. I bought a used one and it did not have any directions for attaching to the bike. I did a search but have not been able to find anything. Could be my search skills. Can someone show or send a picture or diagram showing how it is attached?
  15. DRZ400SK4

    DRZ400SK4 Long timer

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    The joy continues...

    [​IMG]
  16. Boola-Boola

    Boola-Boola Scramblin' Man

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    If you have the part number, punch it in here...
    http://www.triumphinstructions.com/
    ...and you'll probably get the original instruction sheet for it.


    From Triumph's 2008 accessories brochure... Scrambler (+ Thruxton + Bonneville): Tank Bag A9510006

    [Later]- Dagnabbit! Sorry - just tried that number there and it doesn't come up.
  17. bighead3

    bighead3 Adventurer

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    Thanks, I tried that. It says "No parts found"
  18. kiwicaveman

    kiwicaveman Adventurer

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    Karoo 150 fits fine Had one on my Scram for my easter ride only lasted 1800 klms and worn out. In total 1200klms of dirt and 600 tar
  19. kiwicaveman

    kiwicaveman Adventurer

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    I got some crimsafe mesh very fine holes stops mud an rocks hitting the oil cooler it's stainless steel powder coated black works well and you barely notice it on the bike
  20. llubi

    llubi n00b

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    Thank's!