Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. AK Oldman

    AK Oldman WANDRN

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    You aren't paying for it are you?
  2. AK Oldman

    AK Oldman WANDRN

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    The seats fit either version of the bike. I haven't seen the taller seat but have to assume it is the same as the lower seat which means it would have the two height settings.
  3. TwoWheelExplorer

    TwoWheelExplorer Livin' the dream

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    I've not yet been able to take a test ride on an 800 XC, which I'm looking pretty seriously at.

    But for those of you who have settled into your bikes now, how do you find your XC on the freeway for longer rides? I know of the various responses about buffeting, but are you getting enough wind protection so that you don't feel that you have to strain to hold on, etc?

    Does anybody with BMW R*GS experience have thoughts on how the Tiger compares with respect to the freeway drone capability? (The 1150GS Adv I had was surprisingly good at this, after replacing a seat and windscreen as you do on pretty much any bike you're eating miles with).

    Thanks for your input!
  4. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    I haven't bought a T800 (yet), but I have ridden various GS models for long distances and took an extensive test ride on a T800.

    While I'm sure it will vary with each rider's priorities and preference, I think most would find a T800 considerably less capable in true long-distance "drone" mode vs. something like a GS. My impression of the Tiger on my hour+ test ride (with 30 min on the freeway) was of a very light and nimble bike that was a joy in the twisties, but also a bike that had very little wind protection, not a whole lot of high-gear cruising RPM power, a somewhat stiff and non-compliant suspension that didn't to very well on things like freeway expansion joints, and much less overall stability than a telelever BMW. And, of course, less "road hugging" weight.

    The weather protection issue may be somewhat fixable by a bigger screen, but my experience is that big screens on small bikes without much fairing is that you end up with a lot more buffeting and less ability to deal with any kind of crosswind.

    All bikes are tradeoffs and I loved the Tiger. But I don't think it is a great droner. YMMV.

    - Mark
  5. Evomx971

    Evomx971 Wave as you fly over

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    I wanted a hard case on my 800xc quickly for commuter duty. Since I already have several Givi cases around, I ended up pulling a Givi plate (part Z255) off my XR650L and bolting it directly on top of the stock plastic rear rack. I used two 45mm socket head bolts, two washers ground to fit the slot in the Givi plate, some 1/2" tall nylon spacers (which I nested inside each other to get the ID and OD I wanted), and four washers to sandwhich the spacers.

    This was sturdy enough for commuting but I wouldn't want to really hammer this setup off road with something heavy in the case.

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  6. TooBadBrad

    TooBadBrad Adventurer

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    Splitin hairs! I'm well aware Buells are vasly different, but they were undeniably part of the Harley family. I've always wondered what would have happened if Buell could have found some other funding. I think a DL1K motor in a Uly would be very very good.
    I'm mostly just frustrated after reading all the posts from guys who walked in a bought a Tiger while I've been waiting 4 months.
  7. The Jerk

    The Jerk Bring us some fresh wine!

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    Very timely. I'm looking to do the same kind of thing since it looks like it might be a few weeks until Motech gets its act together with the top rack. I ordered the Givi universal mounting plate for monokey cases (which I use successfully on my 1050 Tiger) and I will try to see if I can mount it directly as you have, or if that doesn't look doable, to have a plate fabricated to put the Givi mount onto which then bolts onto the bike using the 4 mount points that are already there.

    It doesn't seem like the stock plastic rack can really take any significant weight since there's not really anything underneath it. Are you mounting it using the stock holes drilled into the rear subframe or are you just mounting it to the stock rear rack?
  8. Evomx971

    Evomx971 Wave as you fly over

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    I wanted a wider rear rack that would support things like tents and dry bags a little better but I could also use my Givi adapter plate (see above post) for when I want a top case.

    The aftermarket is still pretty scarce on racks and I didn't feel like spending the money on a Touratech or Happy Trail quite yet so decided to go the cheap route.

    I bought a 14" by 17" black plastic cutting board at Target for $12:
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    I figured out the pattern I wanted to go around the love handles:
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    I used a fine tooth finishing blade in my table saw, some files, and a sanding block to get it cut out and smoothed up. The plastic melts pretty good when you're cutting, but it worked out.
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    For mounting just the rack, I used 40mm SS button head bolts, fender washers, and 1/2" tall nested spacers sandwiched between washers.
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    Here's the rack mounted w/o the Givi plate:
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    I replace the two rear bolts with 50mm long socket heads and the Givi plate mounts on. Much sturdier now that it's sitting on top of the new rack:
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    At some point I'll get out the drill and jigsaw and make some tie down holes or slots if I think I need them.
  9. The Jerk

    The Jerk Bring us some fresh wine!

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    Nice, that clears it up. Thanks! :clap
  10. Evomx971

    Evomx971 Wave as you fly over

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    With just the Givi plate, the 6mm bolts go through the stock plastic rack thing down into threaded bosses underneath.
  11. spewler

    spewler Not (w)reckless

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    I think it's safe to say you can lump the Battle Wings in that category, too...
  12. markjenn

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    Everybody's got an opinion on tires.... mine is that Battlewings are just about on par with the rest of the 90-10 tires which means they are darn good on pavement and damn poor in mud, sand, and loose dirt/gravel. I'm also of the opinion that Trailwings acquired the "Deathwing" moniker because they are sold routinely on small dual-sports that novice riders buy and then immediately take into tough off-road conditions, promptly falling on their ass. And this has very little to do with the brand of tire.

    - Mark
  13. soph9

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    dare I bring up using Heidenau K60/Scout tires for this bike...? We love them!:wink:
  14. AK Oldman

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    They look nice, where do you buy them?
  15. NoobIAm

    NoobIAm Far, far from the Garden.

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    Have the injectors been swapped out?
  16. PaulSF

    PaulSF Been here awhile

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    Only if you can get Heidenau to actually make and ship them in 150/70 17" :evil ...
  17. AK Oldman

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    Their web site lists them.
  18. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    That's quite a leak. Have they fixed it?
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    He said since it had such few miles on it he was going to wait to see what developed... :dunno
  20. gkgeiger

    gkgeiger Every ride is an ADV

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    When I picked mine up there was some residue on the cylinder, which concerned me. The dealer said it was just an anti-corosion product. They cleaned it off and it hasn't returned. Fortunately it didn't look like yours does. I hope it isn't going to be a problem.