Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. TAMPAJIM

    TAMPAJIM Been here awhile

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    You may have a point. That vent is very low.
    It's my understanding that vent serves as a air intake to equalize negative pressure in the fuel tank caused by the fuel pump. If water temporarily blocked it, maybe a sensor that controls the system sent an error message to the computer..

    Does seem a bad place to mount a canister on a dual purpose bike. The BMW one is up around the cylinder heads.

    You could test it by starting the bike then blocking off the vent

    Disclaimer: I'm just speculating, I really don't know much about this technical stuff..
  2. G-Funk

    G-Funk That ... Umm ..... "Dude"

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    Me, I would reroute that hose intake up ......... and I'm noting this as well, for when I do buy one .....

    And my dislclaimer: I too, know really nothing about this stuff .....

    G.
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    Deano955 Insatiable

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    I know the same. I'm thinking that right angle hose is an overflow. Meant to drain the canister when/ if it fills up w/ whatever it fills up with. I hope Triumph figures out all this stalling, idling, poor running bullshit by the time you are ready to buy one. If not, don't buy one yet.

    I'm totally frustrated with my bike. Want a replacement or refund and told the Customer Relations Manager at Triumph so. He's not responded since...

    I'm gonna try the test- blocking it off while running- in a bit....
  4. cug

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    Use a T piece to route another hose high up because that thing might also be an overflow ...
  5. ButtonPushingMonkey

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    A simple check valve would prevent backflow, but since the majority of the people having the issue are having it without fording a river I would say you are chasing ghosts if you focus on the canister. This at least is easy to test. Stick the tube in a cup of water while it is running to see if it sucks it in
  6. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    Brilliant!!
  7. woodys3b

    woodys3b Been here awhile

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    If the Tiger is indeed in closed loop mode at idle, I would try to disconnect the O2 sensor and see if that makes a difference.

    This should force the bike to operate in open loop mode all the time which is no big deal.

    When engine breaking on the Tiger, there is a lot of noise coming from the cat. This is unburned fuel igniting as it hits the very hot cat. Maybe the computer is reacting to all that excess fuel in the exhaust and leaning the bike out causing it to stall. It starts again when the throttle is opened a tad because the ECU sees that the throttle is no longer in the idle position and moves to a section of the map that is open loop.

    Just a thought.
  8. Porky

    Porky Don't Pass Gas

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    I wonder what effect a Power Commander (or Power Commander like device) would have on the stalling issue??

    According to the Power Commander site they are in the process of developing one for the 800.


    http://www.powercommander.com
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    You shouldn't have to buy a solution. Triumph will soon solve the problem and all will be well in tiger land.

    Regards, Paul
  10. ButtonPushingMonkey

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    Bring the twin back, with a twist...am I the only one who thinks the tiger would be heaven with the new fiat tdi 875cc twin?

    [​IMG]
  11. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    Yes :lol3

    I'll stick with my triple thanks...
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    Yes. :lol3
  13. TAMPAJIM

    TAMPAJIM Been here awhile

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    Yes :lol3
  14. TAMPAJIM

    TAMPAJIM Been here awhile

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    The charcoal canister is a possible culprit for stalling from stream crossings but not for the majority of the T800 stalling cases reported.. In the BMW case, it was sucking in enough water to somehow shut the engine down but I don't think it was filling the canister. You could shut the motor off, let the water drain out of the hose and it would restart but sometimes run a little ragged. Never happened to me because I re-routed the vent hose away from the rear tire and didn't cross streams, but I did see it happen to others while riding in the rain at highway speeds..

    The tube-in-the-water test sounds good, but work the throttle as if riding
  15. TAMPAJIM

    TAMPAJIM Been here awhile

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    I agree. :freaky
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    Good lord. I just checked what my insurance jumped to for 1 year with the 800xc. I find it crazy that for identical coverages with progressive my drz bb stroker was 90bux, a f800gs was 369bux and for the 800xc it was 993bux. Anyone find a place that correctly classifies this bike and gives reasonable rates more in line with the f800gs? The only quote I have pulled from another company is geico which came out to 400...it is weird cause progressive has always been cheaper for me on every bike I have owned
  17. CA Stu

    CA Stu Steer with your face! Super Moderator

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    I checked with my agent, was quoted $966 through Progressive. :eek1
    She did find Pacific Specialty for $589...

    I'm guessing since the model is so new, insurance companies are pricing the policies extremely high until they find out what repair costs are like on the 800/XCs....
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    $900+ is outrageous...I have Progressive too and my annual bill is less than $400. Granted, I'm almost 50, but your rate shouldn't be almost $1k unless you're 25 or younger.
  19. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    They're just factoring in the cost of new frames due to the welded on rear footpegs. :deal Maybe somebody from Progressive was following this thread and thought he'd be a hero... "Hey boss, that new Tiger 800 has welded on footpegs, we're gonna have to replace the frame even in a simple tipover, we better raise rates to cover them." :lol3:freaky

    Before anyone freaks out, j/k I could care less about the footpeg hangers.
  20. tedesco886

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    Regarding the stalling problem. Everyone who seems to have it has had their "500mi" service and has a stock exhaust....Is there anyone here who does not fit those criteria?