Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    With Triumph's continuing rave reviews in the Moto press with nearly ALL their bikes (XC800 included), would anyone predict a future "R" version of the T800XC, similar to the stunning Daytona 675R?

    No doubt bargain priced Ohlins front and rear would sweeten the deal for the XC ... but what else could Triumph come up with to make a better overall package?

    No question the current Street Triple R will get the Daytona "R" treatment next ... could the Tiger XC be next in line for an "R"?

    Maybe a few additional extras could be thrown in as well as trick suspension? "Special" bolt on rear sub frame? Or bolt on passenger pegs?
    Maybe add an inch more travel/ground clearance? Bark busters/crash bars as standard? What else does it need?
  2. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    Much better mounting/bracket system for the OEM panniers. Other than that as I have said before a info button for dash with easy on and off ABS. Near perfect bike in most aspects and if they give it more ground clearance might alienate the more vertically challenge. The way the XC and seat adjustments are presently makes this bike good for even a shorty like me at 5'41/2".


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  3. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    Agreed they need to redesign the OEM pannier mounting system!!
  4. panorton

    panorton Charming as F**k

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    i think you need to read more carefully. i can ride the shit out of my xc, but it stalls coming off idle. should i idle more aggressively?:lol3
  5. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    This subject intrests me greatly as I will be soon be selling them.

    panorton: Any ideas what is behind the stalls coming off idle? Do you feal it is a mapping issue?
  6. Vzuke

    Vzuke Been here awhile

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    I picked up my bike in May and have about about 3000 miles on it now. On the day I went to pick it up the salesman suggested riding it around the back lot just to check it out. The first thing that I noticed, as someone else mentioned here, was an “off idle bog”. While you could power through that spot it just didn’t feel right to me. I asked that one of the mechanics take it for a ride to see what he thought. Apparently it didn’t feel right to him because he pulled it back into the shop.

    The Techs and sales people that I talked to seemed genuinely surprised that the bike was having a problem. Typically the Triumphs were always set up properly.

    I got a little annoyed by one of the other technicians when he implied that I wasn’t working the clutch properly. I guess that could be true if I was new to motorcycles but I have ridden enough bikes over the past 30 years to know how to modulate a clutch. But I just let it slide.

    The salesman was pretty nice, he took me back into the show room and we preceded to swap motorcycle stories. Of course that can only last so long. After about an hour we went back down to check on the bike. And there was my new motorcycle all apart and hooked up to the life support. We went back up stairs and I wandered around every square inch of the dealership looking at bikes, parts, accessories. I guess it was another 1/2 hour when we got the call it was ready.

    The next test ride was much better. They had tweaked the settings on the throttle bodies/ECM/TPS (sorry no details). I was just glad that they got it sorted out. I haven’t had any issues with the bike since.

    The dealership had a great deal on Triumph parts on the day of purchase so I went ahead and ordered the Arrow pipe. Once that came in I installed it myself and rode around until it was time for the 600 mile “check up”. At that point they remapped the ECM for the Arrow and I would swear the the engine actually ran smoother after the remap. I don’t know if that is possible but that’s what it felt like.

    I have noticed that the bike does get a little warm on the thighs though. You definitely don’t “hug” it when the temps are in the upper 90’s. And more heat comes out on the right side. I think the majority of the heat come out of those holes in the plastic and the reason the right is hotter is because the overflow tank is on that side (just a theory). I think I’ll experiment with blocking off those holes.

    I’ve never had a problem with the bike over heating. It seems to go to that 5th bar on the heat meter and stay there. Even when I have been riding in traffic on triple digit days. One thing I noticed about the temperature gauge was how sensitive it is. After sitting outside during my work day I would come out and switch on the ignition and I would have 2 bars just from the ambient temperature.

    I hope every one that has been having problems do get their bikes sorted out. It is a blast too ride. Can you say SMOOOOOOOOOTH? I knew you could.
  7. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    You are so right that Triumph's fix is not in the software or anything else. They are just editing the owner's manual.
  8. The Heathen

    The Heathen Been here awhile

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    :lurkI'm really interested in the 800xc. I've tried searching online for others having problems with the bike but haven't been able to find anything. So, I'm guessing it's a very small number bikes that are having trouble, or....maybe it has something to do with this forum...the only people having problems with their bikes are on this forum...Quit posting and reading and see what happens. kidding of course:rofl

    Dakez..are you going to be a dealer or a salesman at a dealership? I'm self employed, therefore I'm a salesman of sorts. I have two rules. 1. never show up to meet with the customer in an expensive car (not that there's anything wrong with really nice cars) 2. never stir up contention with customers or potential customers. Just sayin'

    Best of luck to y'all..
  9. tedesco886

    tedesco886 Adventurer

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    and to everyone talking about it, I GUARANTEE the heat coming from the right side is from the cat....which might be a nice touch in the winter:eek:P
  10. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Actually what I think everyone is feeling is heat from the radiator being blown, by the fan, across the top of the cylinder head and it comes out of the first gap in the bikes design which is by your knees.
    Blocking off those gaps will, no doubt, send the hot air somewhere else. But where is the next question. Could then be getting roasted gonads.:eek1
  11. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    Your going to sell bikes and you believe crazy things like how its the riders fault???! Where will this dealership be located. I will be sure to never stop by.
    Your have no idea what your talking about.
  12. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    HUH?:ear
  13. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    Mine has 3000 miles and has been stalling since 800 miles. Is that broke in yet? Let me answer that for you. I dont want any room for confusion. The answer is Yes! Some are having the problem at 8000 + miles. The bike doesnt die while driving down the road. It doesnt matter where the bike is "happy", or where the "sweet" spot is! The bike dies at idle! I will repeat. AT IDLE!
  14. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    For those of you that say there is not a large percentage of the New Tigers that dont have the stall issue... How are you getting your facts? Are you saying that not a lot are reported on here? You cant base your numbers from a website forum. I think someone a ways back spelled this out perfect. The percentage of people that are a member of the forum versus the amount of people subscribed and so on... Not to mention the number of people who own a New Tiger and arent even members of ADV Rider. Not saying it is, or isnt a large percentage but you dont have enough facts to know this is true...
  15. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    First day I had my bike, I stalled it a dozen or so times off-idle. Since I learned to give it a little more gas, slipping the clutch a little more, I've stalled it prob 3 times.
  16. panorton

    panorton Charming as F**k

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    My issue is fairly easy to ride around. i just need to take the engine gently above idle before setting off. I honestly couldn't guess whether it is mechanical in nature or software. I've read a few theories that seem possible. I'm taking a wait and see approach as it is still a fun bike to ride and don't want it sitting in the shop.
  17. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    Exactly what I do. I also have a habit of blipping the throttle before I set off and the Tigger doesn't like that either so I force myself to stop doing it. I rode a KTM 690SM last night....you think the Tigger's throttle is jerky :lol3

    Clearly, some bikes have some issues but I also think that people need to adapt to the bike more - I don't ride this the bike the same way I do, say, my Speed Triple, they are different bikes and so have to be driven slightly differently.

    I really really hope everyone gets their bikes sorted out to their satisfaction very soon....
  18. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    I think the stalling "problem" problem is getting confused at this point. My bike, and I think most everone thats having the problem, is not stalling durring take off. The big problem is when you come to a stop light or to a stop for any reason, the RPM's begin to drop while the clutch is in, then eventually the RPM's drop completly off and the bike dies. Or sometimes wont flutter at all and just drop completly off. From what I have read some wont idle at all, or at least after they get super hot. If you arent used to the bike thats one thing. What most are reffereing to is completely un preventable.
  19. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    Go back and re-read my posts. :norton Here let me help you out since you seem to be inept.

  20. ButtonPushingMonkey

    ButtonPushingMonkey Adventurer

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    So, being a technical sort of guy that has to deal with bugs and flaws on a daily basis this sort of issue intrigues me. In my line of work I find that many times several completely unrelated client side issues are attributed to a server side bug simply because a known issue is occurring. This can muddy the waters a bit and end up delaying the main issue resolution. The trick is weeding out the ID10T errors from the valid ones.

    In this case because of the length of the thread it can be a bit hard to judge who simply needs to adjust their riding style to account for a tall geared, light flywheel bike and those actually affected by a fueling/ignition/tb opening bug. If there is a bug it should fit into a pattern that is fairly consistent that will weed out the people not actually having the issues.

    The devil is in the details. Getting everyone we know with the stalling issue to answer the following would help.

    What modifications to the stock setup are in place?
    How many miles were on the bike when you first noticed the stalling?
    Was anything out of the ordinary done to the bike just prior to that?
    Does the outside or bike temperature seem to make a difference in the frequency of the stalls?
    Does the stalling occur more frequently after fully filling the tank?
    If so does a partial fill produce the same results?
    Does the stalling ever occur when you are moving, but with the clutch engaged?
    Does the stalling occur more at long stop lights or short stop and go stops?
    Does the stall ever occur while stopped but with the clutch fully engaged in 1st(ie not starting to go)?
    How about in N just sitting there?
    Does the rpm fluctuate while you are stopped just prior to the stall?
    If so explain and does it fluctuate on non-stall stops?
    Does it stall mainly when leaving the stop?
    If so does it make a difference if it was a stop that you stayed in first and held the clutch in or a stop that you shifted into N, let out the clutch, pulled the clutch in, shifted back into 1 before trying to leave?
    Can you consistently reproduce the stalling? If so what steps do you take that more often than not result in a stall?