Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. UtahFox

    UtahFox Been here awhile

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  2. Wandering Dane

    Wandering Dane We are the luckiest guys

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    Mounted one on my roadie: removed the cannister and plugged the hoses. The fit is perfect and the unit is well-made, very easy to install, works great.
  3. Hallwine

    Hallwine Adventurer

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    An inmate here has some good LED spots and floods

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=607184&page=4

    I put a pair of the spots on my hepco tank protector bar and used the Triumph fog light switch and sub loom.
    worked very well.

    Alas no good pics, because of Garage fire but this sort of gives an idea of what they look like and where they sit (sat) [​IMG]
  4. Rofor

    Rofor n00b

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    Hi,

    Any special reason, why you used the Arrow map?

    In the british Tiger800 board somebody contacted LeoVince and they told him that the standard map should be used with their cans as only for the 'original' Arrow can the special map is needed, all other aftermarket cans should work with the normal map!

    My roadie also works perfectly with the standard map - was by my dealer two weeks ago for service, and they put on the Arrow map on my bike (don't know why) and immediately the tiger consumed approx. 0.5l/100km more fuel, also wasn't able to feel better performance and i think, it didn't rev out as 'freely' as it was before! So back to standard map thanks to TuneECU!

    The only reason, which could be possible for me - with the Arrow map the mixture should be more rich on fuel, which maybe could be necessary in the States, as you don't have 91 or 95 octane fuel like we here in europe as far as i know!?

    Greetings from Vienna, Austria!
  5. KildareMan

    KildareMan Been here awhile

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    There are no USA maps & Euro maps.

    Here are the current 800 tunes:

    <table border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri;"><small>20636Map.hex OEM md5checksum</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold;"><small>Use with standard silencer. Fuel up to E25. Minimum 91 RON (87 RON/MON)fuel. Replaces the 20630</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(153, 255, 153);">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri;"><small>20637Map.hex OEM md5checksum</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold;"><small>Use with Arrow slip-on silencer. Fuel up to E25. Minimum 91 RON (87 RON/MON)fuel. </small><small style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">Replaces the 20631</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(153, 255, 153);">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri;"><small>20632Map.hex OEM md5checksum</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold;"><small>ABS Use with Arrow slip-on silencer. Fuel up to E25. Minimum 91 RON (87 RON/MON)fuel. </small><small style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">Replaces the 20626</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(153, 255, 153);">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri;"><small>20634Map.hex OEM md5checksum</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold;"><small>ABS Use with standard silencer. Fuel up to E25. Minimum 91 RON (87 RON/MON)fuel. </small><small style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">Replaces the 20628</small></td></tr></tbody></table>
    So basically a "standard" tune & an "Arrow" tune, abs & non abs

    Here are the 800xc current tunes
    <table border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri;"><small>20633Map.hex OEM md5checksum</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold;"><small>ABS Use with Arrow slip-on silencer. Fuel up to E25. Minimum 91 RON (87 RON/MON). </small><small style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">Replaces the 20627</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(153, 255, 153);">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri;"><small>20635Map.hex OEM md5checksum</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold;"><small>ABS Use with standard silencer. Fuel up to E25. Minimum 91 RON (87 RON/MON). </small><small style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">Replaces the 20629</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(153, 255, 153);">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri;"><small>20636Map.hex OEM md5checksum</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold;"><small>Use with standard silencer. Fuel up to E25. Minimum 91 RON (87 RON/MON)fuel. Replaces the 20630</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(153, 255, 153);">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri;"><small>20637Map.hex OEM md5checksum</small></td> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); font-family: Calibri; font-weight: bold;"><small>Use with Arrow slip-on silencer. Fuel up to E25. Minimum 91 RON (87 RON/MON)fuel. </small><small style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">Replaces the 20631</small></td></tr></tbody></table>
  6. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Well those did get very hot especially when the headers are the wrong way round.:wink:
    [​IMG]
  7. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    Not sure what break the bank is for you but check out Rigid Industries. Best lights in my opinion!
  8. markbvt

    markbvt Long timer

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    Octane is simply measured using a different method in North America; our 87 octane is equivalent to Europe's 90 octane. Your 95 octane is equivalent to 91 octane here. And most gas stations here also carry 93-octane premium, which is equivalent to your 98 octane (we use the AKI octane rating scale, while Europe uses the RON scale).

    --mark
  9. shadygrady

    shadygrady Adventurer

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  10. Mr_Chris

    Mr_Chris Get away, evil car!

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    Trying to figure out what someone who would sue for that would need an erection for anyway... :rofl
  11. Rofor

    Rofor n00b

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    Ok - so no reason to use Arrow map on any other than a Arrow can. As far as i know, Akrapovic is the only aftermarket can, which has/works on an own map for his part, all others should work well with the standard one. The only 'plus' for the Arrow map is a plus in fuel usage... :D
  12. Mr_Chris

    Mr_Chris Get away, evil car!

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    I run Rigid Dually D2's in Driving mode, with the Hepco-Becker top guard, which I bought specifically because of it's level front pipe and lamp mounts. I ordered the Triumph harness and switch so it matched the heated grip button and it's very nice. I actually aim them slightly splayed as they have a slightly spreading pattern in a "tall oval" shape; this gives me more peripheral lighting while still full power straight ahead too. Very good lights and if you get the Marine ones, they're white, which match the best Tiger 800 XC colour available. :wink:

    Chris
  13. UtahFox

    UtahFox Been here awhile

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    No special reason, no. It just seemed logical that an after market pipe that enhances performance would need it, such as the Arrow or LV. It's running great with the Arrow map, but I didn't really run it that long on the default one. The one thing I did notice with the stock map was more popping on deceleration, after the Arrow map it was popping the same as stock can/stock map. So do we know all the differences in these maps, is it just an air-fuel change? If it seems like its running great, is there a not quite so apparent reason I should go back to default? Looks like I may have to look into this.

    Yeah, my dealer put those on backwards, but I didn't really care as I thought it was a purely cosmetic difference. I also thought about switching them myself, but it seemed I'd have to get the oil cooler off and I just didn't feel up for that until I got to oil change #2 - I never got to oil change #2. :)
  14. the_babaji

    the_babaji Been here awhile

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    Slight correction, In Canada we also use the RON method,

    Generally around these parts

    87 = Regular
    89 = what do they call this? Mid-Grade?
    91 = Super
    94 = Super Duper (Sunoco and some others)
  15. nhspirit

    nhspirit Just Ride

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  16. markbvt

    markbvt Long timer

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    That's the AKI scale, same as the US (also known as the (R+M)/2 scale). The RON scale, used in Europe, uses higher numbers.

    --mark
  17. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    What mounting system did you use? Any way you could post pictures of this set up? Those lights look nice.
  18. shadygrady

    shadygrady Adventurer

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    Here is a email quote I got from Leo Vince after asking the question. "Yea I would recommend you do use the map for the Arrow system. Our system is very comparable."

    I'm certainly dont know much about exhausts, dont all or almost all aftermarket exhaust cans (slip ons) somewhat increase air flow compared to the stock? If you look down the stock exhaust, you cannot see through it as you can my Leo (or prob any aftermarket can) which to me alone suggests greater airflow. If thats the case, it would seem logical to me that the richer arrow map will help to compensate for this increase and therefor allow the bike to run smoother? Maybe its just the nice sound that the Leo makes fooling me, but my Tiger feels so much more responsive and torquee since I loaded the new arrow map!

    Oh yea, and who cares about gas mileage when your having this much fun!! :D
  19. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    do you really think its got more torque?
  20. shadygrady

    shadygrady Adventurer

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    Prob has more to do with the smaller front sprocket which I left out...my bad!

    Never the less seems to run smoother.