Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. internalcombust

    internalcombust Yes its dirty, thanks.

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    Is anyone else having an issue with grooving on the wheel spacers? I have changed tires 3 times and each time I have rotated the spacers, but now I think I may need to buy another set for my next swap. The spacers are aluminum, and I am worried about premature bearing failure similar to the gs800s. I know some one is making steel spacers for the beemer guys, but I haven't seen anything on the tigers yet.
  2. Bueller

    Bueller Cashin?

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    After I sent my stock seat to Sargent for reworking and new foam I got a call a little over a week later from one of the owners. They were in the development stages for their own version of a seat for the T800 and had a loaner bike on its way to them so they could develop their seat design. He asked if he could keep my seat a bit longer and use it for the development process, which I of course agreed to.

    I got a call from him last week. He said the foam was done and it was headed to upholstery, and would then ship to me. They must have worked fast because I received it yesterday.

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    You can clearly see the dished area towards the back of the seat. The dish is actually a bit more than you can see in the photos because the vinyl seat cover tends to float a bit and doesn't fully represent the shape.

    I rode the bike about an hour yesterday. I generally need a bit of time on a seat to get used to it but I can say without a doubt this seat is worlds better than either the stock seat or the Triumph gel seat (which I would be happy to sell at a discount to anyone who wants to try it). The dished area provides a lot more support across a much larger area, and I can still easily move from the dished area up onto the nose of the seat for a change if desired. Having owned several Sargent seats over the years I knew the foam would be a huge improvement, and was not disappointed.

    I believe Sargent will release their seat somewhere around September, but for anyone who wants to have them make one based on the stock pan they should now have templates based on the one they made for me.
  3. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    Thanks for the update. That looks real nice. PM sent re: gel seat.
  4. bluesman

    bluesman Long timer

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    When I had modified DR800 I had 2 set of wheels for it. And DYI aluminium spacers made on my small lathe.
    I changed wheels million times, rotated spacers etc. and never ever had any problem with bearings in 70 000 km.
  5. internalcombust

    internalcombust Yes its dirty, thanks.

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    I was questioning the grooves being cut into the spacers by the seal lip and dirt. Maybe I should have been more specific. As the grooves get bigger and deeper it will allow dirt and water to enter the wheel bearing area. It doesn't sound like you were experiencing any of the issues I was asking about.
  6. bluesman

    bluesman Long timer

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    I see what you mean. No, my "DYI" design of adapted wheels did not allow that to happen, you right...
    Plus I used really good quality sealed bearings...unlike BMW
  7. RichardU

    RichardU Let's Ride

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    I only have 3,000 miles and haven't seen that yet, but it seems like a fairly common problem for aluminum spacers in general. My DRZ had the same problem until I bought a set of stainless aftermarket spacers.
  8. TonyLoco24

    TonyLoco24 Adventurer

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    I have a wolfman alpha bag from a klr I use to have. Has anyone put one of these on the T800XC successfully? It's looking like it might sit on the exhaust, which would not be good. thoughts and/or ideas?
  9. Stein67

    Stein67 Adventurer

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    Does the GL Coyote bag work fine without any sort of pannier rack or racks or any sort on the XC? I really don't want to add anything permanent as most of my riding is just local but would like an option that I could throw on if I wanted to go somewhere. I suspect it's fine as they run them on KLR's and DR650's.

    I put my hand on the stock exhaust heat shield today while riding and it was almost ambient temp when moving. I did read somewhere where someone added some self adhesive reflective metal tape as added protection for heat. I can imagine that it will get hot when stopped or in town.
  10. Marsh Tiger

    Marsh Tiger Been here awhile

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    Yes, I've noticed grooving too.
  11. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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  12. Stein67

    Stein67 Adventurer

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  13. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    PM sent
  14. Stein67

    Stein67 Adventurer

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    PM returned. I'll take them.
  15. WhereIsBobL

    WhereIsBobL Been here awhile

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    YUP. I was thinking I had gotten a small stone wedged in the seal lip, but maybe not. I plan on replacing seals as well as spacer the next chance I get. The seal does not seal all that well right now with the groove cut in the spacer. This seal is not the bearing seal, but the outer replaceable seal. Having some crud get in there would not be a disaster. Having a lot would be eventually.

    I have 25,000 miles on it, but noticed at first tire change.
  16. Stein67

    Stein67 Adventurer

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    Regarding chain maintenance, especially cleaning, I've been pretty lax. Considering I do about 50% of my riding on gravel roads and it gets filthy, I need to address this.

    What does everyone do?

    I've heard some people scrub chains down in a pan of kerosene and then re-lube but I was concerned about trapped kerosene actually doing more harm than good as a solvent.

    Just brush it off and spray it with a good chain lube and call it good? It's been 1000 miles and I'm feeling guilty.
  17. Rob Dirt

    Rob Dirt More or less in line

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    Damn Bob, that's a lot of miles in a short amount of time. Did you ride iron butts all year or what?
  18. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    I fitted a Scottoiler and let it throw plenty of oil at the chain. Job done.
  19. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    I did the same, and haven't even so much as thought about my chain in 3500 miles. I did notice a ton of oil underneath the bike near the side stand last night and haven't had time to investigate. I'm hoping its fling. I don't notice it anywhere else, but I think I have it dialed in to dump too much oil so I've lowered that.
    I'll never own a chain bike again without one. Awesome device.
  20. eram310

    eram310 Been here awhile

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    Looks like my other sargent seats that I like so much. When they come out, I will buy one.