Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. clax

    clax Been here awhile

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    Thanks Bross... I appoligize if I snapped a bit, but I guess the situation has rattled me slightly. It's really hard to give people a full understanding of the situation in one email.

    Things are looking up. The chain and sprockets are here, and I will most liketly be able to get them on today and be on my way soon. The bike shop said they have work piled up and and it may take several days to get to it, so I asked if I could come down there and do it. Now they are saying they could do it today : )

    Still haven't heard anything from Triumph customer service about how this will be handled. I have no idea what I will do about it in Argentina, but I guess I will figure that out.

    take care,

    Clay D
  2. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    Clay - glad the chain and sprockets have arrived and you should hopefully be on your way again very soon. Check the chain very carefully after the shop has installed it - if possible, you might want to take a photo and post it so inmates can take a look to see if the master link was riveted correctly. Hopefully it's not an endless chain that would mean they need take the swingarm off to install.

    I have to say, you have no chance of Triumph doing anything - the responsibility for ensuring your chain is correctly tightened and in good condition is entirely yours. I'm really not sure what you expect Triumph to do - it's hard for me to fathom why you started out on this trip without even the basic mechanical skills to tighten a chain. It boggles my mind to be honest.

    Good luck for the future.
  3. Rob Dirt

    Rob Dirt More or less in line

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    If you clean & lube your chain every 200miles (that's what the owners Manuel says), then it should last way more than 20,000 miles. After you get a brand new chain & sprocket set installed, lube the chain. Stop at 50 miles & check for stretching. Adjust if necessary. If its good, then stop at 100 miles @ repeat. A new chain will stretch & need adjusting shortly after install.
  4. T

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    Had this article saved as an interesting reference to bikes and mileage. While we're on the subject of chains, check out the lifespan of this dudes chains...





    High Mileage Bikes - Britain's Highest Mileage Rider



    <HR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #dddddd; COLOR: #dddddd" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->I was looking through some old bike mags recently and found this article in Bike May 2005. I find this sort of thing interesting as a motorcycle owner so thought I'd post some highlights.

    The fella in question is a courier called Stan, who was in his early 60's at the time of the article. His list of bikes is as follows, along with the mileage he put on to each:

    1983 Kawasaki GT550 - 15,000 miles
    1984 Kawasaki GT750 - 184,000 - "Worst bike I ever bought"
    1986 Yamaha FJ1100 - 30,000
    1987 Yamaha FJ1200 - 14,000 in 3 weeks - returned to the dealer due to excessive vibration
    1987 Yamaha FJ1200 - 90,000
    1988 Honda VFR750 FJ - 140,000
    1989 Honda VFR750 FK - 149,000 - knocked over at an airport, then traded in
    1990 Honda VFR750 FL - 852,000 - engine replaced at 440,000 after it blew its head gasket
    1996 Kawasaki ZZR1100 C3 - 252,000
    1997 Kawasaki ZZR1100 D1 - 60,000 - written off
    1998 Honda Blackbird - 410,000
    2001 Honda Blackbird - 205,000 - current bike at the time of the article

    Some mega mileages there, just goes to show those who worry about their bikes getting to 20 or 30k miles have only just scratched the surface.



    Some other info:
    • <LI itxtHarvested="0" itxtNodeId="23">Oil and filter changed every week - using Honda oil filters but 10w40 car oil - the cheap stuff (that's what he used in the 852,000 mile VFR!!) <LI itxtHarvested="0" itxtNodeId="22">RK chains last far longer than any others - usually 80,000 miles
    • A Scottoiler is used to keep the chain 'saturated in oil'
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    I personally like DID chains the best....


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  5. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Motorex makes a neat little pocket size chain lube can that is refillable from the full size one. Throw it in the tank bag and give the chain a shot each morning on a trip.

    And yes, they stretch a bit. For you DIY'rs, check your chain slack on the new bikes. I had to set mine up a bit already.

    Spokes too on the XC's. Do the tink-tink-tink method with a 5mm box-end, tighten up the loose ones. I got a quarter turn or so out of about a third of mine, front and rear.
  6. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    If this has been discussed I apologize, but what is the general opinion of chain oilers?
  7. Rob Dirt

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    They work, but I ride way to much sand. Even the dirt has sand. The oil would attract sand & it would stay on the chain.
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    That tends to be the popular opinion on chain oilers....too much dirt/sand turns the oil into a grinding compound.
  9. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    I think they're probably great for a long distance road bike, although I've never used one.
    The thing I don't like about oil is that it's extremely messy and dirty. That shit goes everywhere. :puke1
  10. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    I've used a Scott Oiler on a couple bikes but as said wouldn't use one on any bike that see's gravel roads, off road. I also spent probably just as much time fiddling with the delivery tube to keep it positioned properly as I would have just lubing the chain. Won't ever use one again.

    If you rode every day in the rain, like say Seattle or the UK, then I'd say it could be worth it, otherwise no.
  11. clax

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    I'm 99% sure you don't understand what happened. I know how to adjust and maintain a chain.

    When this happened there was no adjustment left and I had been trying to get a chain thru the dealer network for weeks!

    Maybe that point isn't very clear in what I said before.

    Is it Triumphs responsibility to make sure my chain is tight? No! I didn't say that.

    Should they try to help me get some parts when I desparately need them?
    Ya, I think so.

    Clay D
  12. jimjim

    jimjim Just another FF!

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    Based on your first post I didn't think you knew how to adjust or maintain a chain either.
  13. clax

    clax Been here awhile

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    I'm not entirely certain how you are coming to this conclusion. Because the shop tightened my chain, while I was having the pannier bracket welded? I don't get it. So anyone that has ever had their chain adjusted by a mechanic doesnt know how to do it themselves? Btw, I helped the mechanic do it!

    Ciao,
    Clay
  14. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    Exactly what I was basing my comment on. I also got the impression that Clay thought Triumph somehow had responsibility for the cracked case due to the chain being loose and coming off since a mechanic at a Triumph dealer had last adjusted it. If I have that wrong, I apologize....but that's what I read into Clay's comments.
  15. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    You were not very clear at all - you mentioned the chain first and then said you 'also' had other things done at the shop. That to me (and others it seems) indicates the main purpose of the visit was to have the chain tightened. If you know how to do it, why let the shop even touch it ?

    It may just be a language thing, I have no idea....
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    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    OMG :eek1

    :rofl :lol3 :D
  17. gallowaystx

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    Obviously the dealer in Colombia either a) mistakenly thought the chain would last or b) screwed you (more likely - based on the other things you mentioned that he neglected)

    But either way - triumph and I will both argue that it is your responsibility to double check the dealer's work and take it up with them before you leave the shop. If you suspected the chain was near the end of it's life it would have been prudent to INSIST on a new chain before you rode another 10k km into the hearth of south america and/or bought a replacement chain to take along with you.

    That said - total lack of response, even if to tell you to get lost - is inexcusable from a brand that claims to be manufacturing adventure bikes.

    If they are serious about us taking these things far and wide they really need to go above and beyond (at this stage in the game) to coddle their riders in order to prevent them from defecting back to the "other" brand.

    GL with everything - I wish you plain sailing from here on out and I am happy to hear that your parts are finally there. Keep us updated on your progress for the rest of your trip. Is there a RR?
  18. rustynut2

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    Back to the bike for a bit. Looking at the 800xc myself and wondering how it is on the highway, is it spooled up or just happy. RPMs at 60, 70 and 80 would be nice.
  19. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    Don't pay attention to these guys. They're just pissed that you're off riding in South America and they're sitting behind a computer:lol3
  20. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    It is just fine cruising at 80 on the highway. Allegedly. So I'm told :D