It's catch 22 for some. Roll the bars forward for better ergonomics while standing and then the bars are too far away while sitting, at least for me. I am only 5'9. In order for me to be the most comfortable for touring I actually have 2" pivot risers tilted back towards me a bit. I do feel a bit too crowded while standing but it's give and take. I can always roll them forward if I am trailing it all day.