Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. jphish

    jphish Been here awhile

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    Only issue for me was once, going down a steep hill on loose dirt - appeared to be almost no braking. But 99% of time ABS stays on, regardless of roads - works great. Did get a rock stuck in ABS ring - CEL light was on - had it 'cleared' & offending rock removed passing thru Reno - Nice Triumph dealer there - took it in right away. Now I know what to look for if it happens again.
  2. jphish

    jphish Been here awhile

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    PS: I ride in rain a good portion of the year in the great "Northwet" - it has saved me several times on fast stops to avoid idiot 'left turners' that dont SEE motorcycles. As long as front wheel is straight - tiger stops quick & true, with no propensity for a high or low side event. I think ABS is a huge leap forward in motorcycle safety.
  3. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    I totally agree, the ABS works very well on or off road. Have never turned mine off and never felt the need. My wife and I went on a 4 day dual sport ride and it included LOTS of steep, loose, rocky climbs and descents and I never once felt the ABS do anything but slow and stop the bike predictably. Too many people have been conditioned for too many years to expect scary, dangerous ABS systems from BMW on loose surfaces. Yamaha have an excellent ABS system on the Tenere and the system on the Tiger just works. I don't even think about anymore, I just ride.

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  4. henkew

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    I have a Trekker 33, Trekker 46, and an E55 (I am considering getting a Trekker 52 to replace the E55). I would like to replace the lock barrels so all boxes are keyed the same. The problem the Trekker 46 has a new style lock and the other two boxes use the old style. All cases were purchases in the past year.

    The old 3 lock replacement kit is Givi part number Z228 ($30). The new style lock is part number SL 103 (but not available in the USA). The new locks are longer and use a more secure key. The two are not interchangeable without an adapter.

    I have been told that I can buy the new style lock and use it on an older one by adding part Z640R. This is essentially an adapter that will allow you to mount the longer, newer lock into the old style case. The only problem with this is that SL-103 sets are not available in the USA.

    I have also been told the older style lock set will work on any of the cases by some sales reps, but others have told me they will not work with or without an adapter.

    Ideally, using the lock barrels that came with my XC would be the way to go and my motorcycle key would then fit the luggage. But the Triumph barrel is too long. I wonder if the Givi adapter for their longer barrels (part number Z650R) could be used to mount the Triumph lock barrels.

    Has anyone out there had luggage with different GIVI lock styles and how did you resolve it?

    Also, has anyone by chance tested part Z650R with the Triumph lock barrels or attempted to mount the triumph barrels in the givi luggage using another workaround?

    Thanks!

    PS: Hot Babes dig matching lock sets so they can easily find their stuff.
  5. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    Your post got me thinking. I did not know there were two styles of lock barrels.

    I purchased a TRK33N and TRK46N earlier this year. They were separately keyed, but I used a Givi 2-lock set and replaced the originals with the new barrels and now both cases are keyed identically.

    I have a set of E360 cases that are color-matched to my ZZR; they are identically keyed also.

    Then, lastly, I have a Traffic II case that has its own key pattern.

    I had always figured I could cross-key the Traffic II to either of the side case sets with a 3-lock system, but now I'm not so sure. The thought of cross-keying all five cases had also been in my head, but I'm not certain how one could buy two sets of 3 lock barrels and be able to make sure they were identical.
  6. cug

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    You are falling for the typical Internet trap: the three guys in the world that don't like the ABS on the Tiger are vocal like hell on every single forum that'll let them in writing dozens of rants while thousands and thousands of happy customers never even think twice about it.
  7. Simon Smith

    Simon Smith Been here awhile

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    :stupid
    You don't even know the ABS is there unless you get yourself into the situation that you need it. Works far better than the so called superior system used on most cars, which don't seem to have any "feel" to them at all.

    So yes, I would say that 99% of the people don't complain about it because they simply forget that it's there.
  8. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    ABS? Wassat?
  9. turboICE

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    The ABS works very well and I think most that have given it a chance on loose descents have been surprised by how unintrusive and usable it was. On wet asphalt it is flawless. It maybe the best implementation of ABS I have ever experienced on any vehicle. Its sensitivity and response has always been expected rather than unexpected.

    I actually don't recall much in the way of complaints about how it works at all. I think the complaints that have been aired have related to it being more complex to disable than it needed to be for those that want to disable it for loose surface riding, rather than anything wrong with the ABS itself.
  10. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    +1 I agree i talked about the ABS in my 25K review i did on my blog. The ABS is so much better than the BMW ABS and i think most of us are riding off road with it on. Something the beemers never do. It lets you in put just enough to do a little slide before kicking in and straightening you out. It actually allows me to control the bike the way i like off road. I see no reason to ever disable it in my opinion.
  11. Mr_Chris

    Mr_Chris Get away, evil car!

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    It's fine. If you don't like ABS then you don't ride well enough or know when to turn it off -- and the only time you turn it off is when you want to use the rear brake to "turn", not stop, the bike. Otherwise there is no difference as the ABS only engages when the rider locks the wheel -- you will never see it on any rocky anything, unless you either over-brake and lock the wheel, or want to go Enduro style and whip the rear wheel around and oooops, remember you left ABS on and the rear isn't moving around like you expected.

    Now whether or not you want to ride a bike this big like that is a personal choice I guess... I'm not a good enough rider to be comfortable doing that on my Tiger, I'm a puss on my Tiger. :huh
  12. Rob Dirt

    Rob Dirt More or less in line

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    Everytime these ABS post start up, I feel like a weirdo. I always turn it off for dirt. I'm just used to locking up both front & back brakes in the dirt. I have tried to leave it on several times & I hate the way the rear pulses. I could live with the front ABS, but I can't get used to the rear. I have never felt like its a problem to turn it off. Yes, a button would be better but it only takes a second. I don't regret getting ABS. I love it on wet tarmac, plus you can change out sprockets & it doesn't mess with the speedo/odo.
  13. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    A voice of reason. You prefer to ride with ABS off in the dirt but you don't moan and bitch about the crappy ABS because you can't switch it off or it's too hard to switch off. :clap
  14. y0y02369

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    Oh great thanks guys! I have jus spent three hours at the dealership and have learned a lot about the bike but their answers always seem "by the book" so it's nice to have some real input from the actual owners...what actually happens when the rear wheel locks... how does the abs kick it and how does it feel?
  15. y0y02369

    y0y02369 Long timer

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    hahaha yeah i will definitely begetting something smaller for offroading till i get really comfortable with it! thanks!:evil
  16. y0y02369

    y0y02369 Long timer

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    Great thank you! what brand are you panniers? I was looking at the triumph ones and they seem really flimsy and WAY over priced!
  17. Yossarian™

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    It feels like a slight and rapid vibration, and you just keep slowing down.
  18. legends117

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    Hey - I recently purchased an '11 800 Roadie (which I think is the most superb bike I have owned), and just noticed the sidewall of the front tire has cracked and doesn't appear to be holding air.

    What are y'all recommendations for replacement? I will be riding 90% on pavement and 10% on some dirt roads.

    Peace and thanks in advance - JD
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  20. jmcg

    jmcg Turpinated..

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    Threw a set of Michelin Anakee 2's at my wife's roadie about 1,500kms ago.

    Similar riding to what you describe re dirt/sealed and no complaints to date.

    Found them to be very good on the road and good enough for most well maintained dirt surfaces. Haven't really tried to stretch the limitations of the grip off road.. Little undue wear front or rear at this early stage.

    In all, I prefer the Michelins over the OEM Pirelli Scorpion Trails(?), although I must say that the Pirelli's were well past their use-by date when they were finally replaced.. 14,500kms..

    Cheers,

    JM.