Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    That's OK.

    I just did a F&R tire change on a Yamaha Stratoliner. The selling Yamaha dealer did the last set of tires, a couple years ago. The front wheel was in backwards. Easy to tell, when only one side of the wheel has a hub cover and the other side is exposed with a nice arrow to tell the "mechanic" which way it goes. On top of that, they scratched the front fender and only tightened one of the rear caliper bolts. Every bolt I encounted was of a differing level of tightness. Some people have laughed at my religious use of a torque wrench, but, I know that somebody's life is in my hands.

    Likewise, I just did a F&R tire change on a Victory Vision. The selling Victory dealer did the last tire change. Both wheels were gouged like someone was operating a tire machine for the first time. At least, all the bolts felt evenly torqued.

    I get a lot of business, in my home shop, because I use a No-Mar tire machine, torque wrenches, and give fair prices on tires and services. Glad to know my OCD is good for something, other than stress.
  2. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    Crap, see I'm doing it all wrong. I have the same setup but haven't been charging my riding buddies a damn thing to change their tires. I'm like you and try to use a torque wrench any time I'm working in the shop. A good friend who is a very good mechanic laughs at me and says the last time he used a torque wrench was to pass his test in school. He does use a torque wrench for heads etc.
  3. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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  4. live2ridetahoe

    live2ridetahoe RN

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    I wish you were in the Bay Area... I'd come to you for service. I love OCD mechanics...

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  5. live2ridetahoe

    live2ridetahoe RN

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    Is that the Orange County Backcountry Discovery Route? What are we going to take side roads from mall to mall? Maybe we all get fake boobies at the end of the trip...

    JG
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    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    Opps fixed :)
  7. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    Mine paid for itself in 3-1/2 months.

    I tried to get the shop I used to work at to buy a No-Mar. They wouldn't do it. With what one set of scratched wheels cost them, they could've paid for the machine. Some people just don't get it, which is why they're nearly out of business (from ~100 sales a month down to ~13 a month). *shakes head*

    :lol3 Thanks!
  8. live2ridetahoe

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    Man... It was funnier the other way...

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  10. The Breeze

    The Breeze Been here awhile

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    Seems like my Tiger XC wants to constantly pull to the right. It never really bothered me on day rides.....but, just completed a 3k mile ride to the Ozarks (which has fantastic twisties by the way) and when slabbing it home to South Texas, it became a PIA.

    In other words, while going 70-80 mph down the highway, if you take your hands off the bars......the bike will start to drift to the right. Which means I'm constantly having to push forward on the left bar (with light pressure)....or pull back on the right bar....(i.e., counter steering) to keep the bike going straight.

    I love this bike, but would really like to resolve this issue.

    Does everyones Tiger do this? Is there a fix?

    Thanks!
  11. Jeuneyer

    Jeuneyer He don't say much.

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    Easy fix for the issue you are having is to lean to the left....:muutt:rofl
  12. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    Mine doesn't do this unless you consider the crown in the road. Most lanes will slope slightly to the right for drainage even if they appear to be flat. I don't take my hands off the bars, usually but when I owned a BMW R1200RT with cruise control, I used to set the cruise, put my feet up on the highway pegs, lean back with my hands off the bars and try to just cruise down the road. It was pretty bloody amazing how much body english it took to keep the damn bike going straight. So much so that I would just give up the calisthenics and place one hand or one finger is all it took to make simple corrections to the bars to keep the bike running straight.

    Check your front end alignment and rear wheel alignment to make sure both wheels are running true and in line.
  13. TerraUnFirma

    TerraUnFirma Fair/Not Balanced

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    Nothing like that with mine...I've got an O-ring between the bar end and the handgrip to act as a poor-man's (read KLR owner's) cruise control and unless there is a very pronounced crown in the road, I can ride with both hands off the bars pretty much indefinitely. If there is an unusually pronounces crown in the road, a little body english can keep me going straight.

    Might want to check your rear wheel alignment. Have you or a dealer adjusted chain tension?

    Cheers
  14. Rob Dirt

    Rob Dirt More or less in line

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    The Breeze, my XC has always pulled to the right. I installed a LeoVince muffler & I can barely notice it now. BTW, I use a tape measure to aline the rear. I've never trusted those marks.
  15. The Breeze

    The Breeze Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the quick responses!

    At first I thought it was the crown of the road, but I've tested several scenario's based on the camber/crown of the road. Pretty much takes a strong side wind to keep my bike going straight.

    I used a Motion Pro alignment tool to check to ensure that the rear was aligned properly....and the dots on the rear stops definitely are not correct. I think I'll recheck the alignment on front and rear again.

    The weight of the muffler seems to make a lot of sense. The stock can is pretty damn heavy hanging of the right side of the bike. May have a new/lighter can in my future:evil
  16. The Breeze

    The Breeze Been here awhile

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    Do you happen to know the weight of the stock can vs. the LeoVince???
  17. swimmer

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    FWIW, I bought this and put it on my tiger. It was $90 shipped from the US distributor and the guy shipped it out quickly. I am 5'9" and have my seat in the high position. This went on a std. screen. Wind turbulence was reduced quite a lot. Big difference in the force on the helmet when turning to check for a clear lane at 70mph +. Noise is still a little high but with ear plugs it's tolerable. Different helmets can make a big difference in noise so I see curing the turbulence as a little more universal. Using Arai RX-Q fwiw.

    I have a modified low position that I use for the summer and when just commuting which gives me pretty clean air but for the highway and/or cooler weather I prefer more wind blockage and this aerotrim piece is a significant improvement over just the std. screen and its also better than the high triumph screen IMO.

    I bought an adjustable mount for the std screen which should be here shortly and hopefully I can fine tune things a little more.
  18. Rob Dirt

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    No, but I was told the LV is less than half the weight of the stock muffler. The stock muffler would make a good boat anchor.
  19. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    A pull to the right means the front wheel is too far to the right, and needs to move left in respect to the hub. Using 1/4 turns of the spoke wrench, loosen all the spokes on the "from" side, then tighten all the spokes on the "to" side. Test ride, and repeat if condition still exists. This may take a half dozen or more iterations to get right, but doing it in small steps mitigates the possibility of putting the wheel out of true.

    Doing this fixed my "right pull" issue; the bike now tracks straight as an arrow on level ground with hands off bars.
  20. The Breeze

    The Breeze Been here awhile

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    Excellent:clap I'll try it and report back.