Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    If it was indeed the weight of the muffler (insignificant in the big scheme of things) then you would be leaning left to balance it and it would pull left, not right.


    Regarding weight, every one likes to make these grand claims about weight savings by replacing a factory muffler. They do it ad infinitem on the husky forums for the 630 as well.

    So let's say you drop 8lbs for one, or 15lbs for two (mufflers, the husky has two), and 4lbs by ditching the stock battery for a Shorai...so about 20-25lbs or so, right? So you have a 450lb pig instead of a 475lb pig, and then pile gear and racks and all that crap on it. Same for the husky, so you have a 310 bike instead of 330. Wow. And you only spent about $60 per lb to do that. Most guys will say the money is better spent on a gym membership and/or rider training. A GSA or a S10 are still another 100-150lbs. I wonder if they use the same logic... :D

    Oh, and then you don a 7lb adventure jacket and put a 3L hydration pack on your back. Sheesh!!
  2. cug

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    It's countersteering the bike ...

    :deal
  3. rustynut2

    rustynut2 Been here awhile

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    My klr did this pull to one side. The rear wheel wasn't tracking straight. Small adjustments to the rear end, ride and see, adjust again. I wouldn't touch the front spokes yet.
  4. bluesman

    bluesman Long timer

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    Total weight of stock is 5.89 kg
    Total weight of LeoVince Aluminium is 3.52
    Total weight of LeoVince Carbon (I have one! Yesss!) 3.17 kg

    http://www.leovince.com/en/catalog-...i_passaggio_standard_tiger_800_i_e_2011/14229

    http://www.leovince.com/en/catalog-...i_passaggio_standard_tiger_800_i_e_2011/14230

    By no means stock muffler is too heavy comparing to most I handled in my experience. More to it - it is rather smart design with combined labyrinth/straight through combo. But bulky and noise not nice.
    But Leo is brilliant - sounds great, looks good and don't affect bike power negatively (according to dyno runs I saw). And it is VERY well made and not too expensive.
  5. frytown

    frytown Been here awhile

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    To those that have experienced the pulling to the right:

    Are you all sure it's not simply uneven tire wear? Fronts always wear more on the right than the left so, perhaps, after time, start pulling that way since the road to tread delta ends up being steeper.

    Just a thought.

    Oh, and the LV Carbon can feels quite a bit lighter than stock, but I don't think it qualifies as less than half. Maybe 2/3 the stock weight? Not sure since I didn't weigh it before putting it on.

    I will say it improved bottom end grunt and sounds infinitely better....!
  6. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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  7. pilot3

    pilot3 Been here awhile

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    So as much as I like this bike, I have been disappointed with the rear tail/brake light, mainly because it is not as bright as other bikes, specifically most Japanese bikes that use clusters of rear facing diodes. The Tiger uses side facing diodes in the light array which are then reflected rearward to illuminate from behind. Being LED, we cannot increase the brightness so what's a Tiger owner to do?

    Here are the markers from behind on an overcast day-

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    And now the brake lights-

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    I searched out a waterproof LED array which has a pulse trigger lead (not cheap). Then with a bit more searching, I located the factory wiring plugs and, after a bit of wiring, built this--

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    The black plugs are a direct match to the Triumph factory plugs, so all that is necessary is to unplug the rear light assembly, insert this in between, and plug them in.

    The light is slim and narrow enough and fits just perfectly into the notch above the light assembly and below the rear rack. It is adhered in place with 3M dual side waterproof adhesive.

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    The light array acts as a tail light just as the original does when it is powered on. When the brakes are applied, the light emits a brief series of pulses and then stays on bright. Let me just say, the brake lights are super bright, even in the sunlight.

    Tail lights alone with LED array-

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    And with the brake lights applied-

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    Here is a video link to the application of the brakes. It is out of focus due to the flash and brightness of the LED's-

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/JMFHymlgKX0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


    I've though about making more should there be a demand, but at the very least I just wanted to share the light improvement.

    Cheers,
    p3


    ***MOVED TO VENDORS***


    There were requests for more of these so I started a thread in Vendors (thanks GB for the guidance). Please go there to ask your questions and place your orders.

    Here is the Vendors link: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19943845#post19943845

    p3
  8. motonut

    motonut Old Guy

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    Very nice modification!

    I too was not satisfied with my Tiger's rear lighting. I added an off the shelf, inexpensive and BRIGHT! LED tail/brake light and located it below the OEM light after lowering the license tag a bit. Overall, I'm totally happy with my mod but it ain't as purdy as yours!

    Where did you source your plugs?:ear
  9. doxbike

    doxbike Been here awhile

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    Hey Pilot 3, put me down for one if you decide to make some more:clap
  10. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    +1

    I think you may have just discovered a market for your well-designed accessory.

    It looks better and fits more nicely than hyper-lites or other current aftermarket solutions.
  11. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    +1 if the price is reasonable.
  12. NaDSoB

    NaDSoB Another asshole on a KLR

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    Great job!!!!
    I'm in, too! Hope you can deliver soon! :nod

    Rob
  13. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    And if you decide not to make the light kit perhaps you could give us a list of suppliers and part numbers that you used so that we could make our own without having to source all the parts all over again.
    Thanks
  14. bigtallguy

    bigtallguy Sasquatch Jr.

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    I'm interested too, any idea on price?
  15. fullmonte

    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    Pm me if you are interested in a Leo Vince pipe.:deal Does not fit with HT racks.:cry
  16. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Ah...another victim. I had to return my LV can. Pissed me right the fuck off.
    They could have easily designed the rack to attach to any number of points on the frame, but instead they chose right where the muffler headpipe passes and the LV headpipe won't clear it. They said they are too busy to re-design it. I still may dump them and go with something else. I hate stock (quiet) cans.
  17. Ducken

    Ducken Been here awhile

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    Likewise if the price is right, I'll be signing up for TWO! Ken
  18. pilot3

    pilot3 Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the great feedback everyone! Really glad you all liked it.

    I'm waiting for a mod to get back to me to decide where to best put the thread and my creation. Then I'll PM everyone and we can get the orders going. :clap

    I'll figure out price, time and shipping this week too.

    p3
  19. Grover6

    Grover6 Been here awhile

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    Slightly off topic, but I have a question for Tiger owners. Anyone thought about or tried putting an 18" rear on their Tiger?

    I am considering this for my next bike and like the 18" rear for offroad. Not a deal breaker, just curious.
  20. Rob Dirt

    Rob Dirt More or less in line

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    http://www.advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=18