Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Another VERY satisfied owner of two Tigers here.
    2002, 955Tiger 67000 miles and no issues at all except for things wearing out naturally.
    2011, 800XC 17600 miles and no problems at all.
    Both just pure reliability.

    And the BMW owners.
  2. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    It's a pity that anyone can get banned. Perhaps he, like me, hates BMW in general when they blame a fault on their bikes on the owners. I got "user error" when drive shafts were wearing out too quickly on R100GSs.:huh It was a known problem amongst owners but BMW wouldn't admit it. Some years later, they changed the material of the UJ grease seals (OE ones broke down in contact with gearbox oil!!) and solved the non existent problem. Bastards.
  3. ThomasVolomitz

    ThomasVolomitz New Old Stock

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    I think he made unwarranted personal attacks on Beemer owners, questioning their manhood and so forth. It was quite comical but the thread was exploded into oblivion and so was he. He may be here with another handle keeping a slightly lower profile.
  4. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    The LED is not crucial. Really, you wouldn't even need to drill the hole to mount it. You'd just have to remember to turn off your gear, when shutting off the bike. I don't really use my LED for anything other than to confirm I've turned on my gear. But, certainly, you'll feel immediate heat when you do turn on the switch.
  5. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    Right on the dash. Use the wireless controller from Warm n Safe. No wires, no fuss.

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    The beauty of this is that it moves from bike to bike by using a simple RAM mount.
  6. burgerking

    burgerking echt bezopen

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    I think he came back :wink:
    You know him very well I believe :D
  7. cug

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    Me like!

    I don't have any heated gear yet, and if we get some, it'll be the heated liner for my wife first before I'm allowed to buy heated gear for me ... :lol3

    Was thinking about Warm & Safe, too, as they seem to have a pretty good reputation and seem to be nicely manufactured, while Gerbings has been getting some heat (pun intended) for outsourcing to China and manufacturing them as cheaply as possible, e.g. not having heating elements around the arm, only on top and so on. But I don't want to get this into a heated gear thread, just saying.

    I really like the wireless controller, how does this work out for you? I'm thinking of heated glove liners (if it gets extremely cold) and a heated jacket. The Tiger should have enough juice to drive both without an issue I guess. Do you guys also use heated pant liners? For me, freezing always starts around the hands, shoulders, arms, chest area, then feet and way after that I feel the cold in the legs.
  8. cug

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    Oh, and may I also ask how you like the Montana? I still have the GPSMap 60CSx, but the screen is really small and some of the navigation features are really, really sow. How's the Montana? I was always put of by how big and bulky it is ...
  9. TerraUnFirma

    TerraUnFirma Fair/Not Balanced

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    I've got a 60CSx and the Montana and while the new interface is a bit quirky, the extra screen real estate is great. Hard to go back to the smaller screen. The Montana has a pretty fast processor, so updates, recalc's and such are pretty quick. No major complaints, but I haven't done a lot of complicated routing on it.
  10. 3Putt

    3Putt Is that a gimmie?

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    I believe Gerbings are made in the USA now.
  11. TAMPAJIM

    TAMPAJIM Been here awhile

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    True that. We went through this a few pages back. :deal
  12. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    She and I, both, have jackets, pants, socks, and gloves. The advantage to a full setup is that you can run the whole thing at a much a lower temp and stay warmer, overall. If you have a dual controller and are by yourself, you can run your upper and lower body at different temp levels. My 1050 will run both our setups, but, have never had both turned all the way up, at the same time. Not sure about the wattage difference between the 1050 and 800.
  13. strider.deano

    strider.deano Been here awhile

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    Ducnut,

    I believe the Tiger 800's max output is 645w and the 1050 is about 480w.

    Someone had estimated the bikes use about 300w just going down the road.

    Gerbing Wattage;
    Pants=44w
    Jacket=77w
    Gloves or Liners=27w

    Doubling these numbers for two fully heated riders would put the wattage needed at about 300w.

    This could push the Tiger 1050 charging system beyond it's capacity.

    Maybe somebody could check my numbers.
  14. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Fit the accessory power socket under the saddle. Stick a DIN plug on your jacket wiring and stick the controller to the outside of the battery box with Velcro. You'll remember to turn everything off when you get snagged by the wiring when you try to walk away from the bike. :wink::lol3
  15. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    I've run a full complement of gear (gloves+jacket+pants+socks) off the Tiger and have had no issues. It's probably about 240W worth of draw, but I can't say it's ever run at 100%, as that just gets too hot!

    The dual channel is nice; I typically run gloves+jacket on channel 1 and pants+socks on channel 2. If I am running just gloves and jacket for the day, each go on their separate channel.

    As for the Montana, I also have a 60cx. No comparison. The Montana is MUCH easier to read, and the only thing I miss about the 60cx is the dedicated "mark waypoint" button.
  16. ThomasVolomitz

    ThomasVolomitz New Old Stock

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    I assumed he was back in one form or another, perhaps not so incendiary in this incarnation.
    Frankly, i got a kick out of some of his posts but the beemer guys didn't.
  17. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    According to my 1050's service manual. It shows alternator output at 34amps which is 408watts.
  18. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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  19. Bueller

    Bueller Cashin?

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    I find no need for heated pants or socks. If I keep my core warm with a heated liner and my hands warm with heated grips (or both heated grips and heated gloves when it's really cold out) I don't need anything more than a pair of long johns under my jeans and Darien over pants.

    I typically run heated gear at about 50% duty cycle, perhaps up to 75% duty cycle if it's really cold out. If the combination of heated jacket, heated gloves, and heated grips draws approximately 150 watts, at 50% duty cycle it's really only about 75 watts of constant consumption or 110 watts at 75% duty cycle. Considering all of that I have no fears about running two sets of heated stuff on a T800 and could probably even get away with it with the 1050's charging capacity, though it would be close.
  20. TerraUnFirma

    TerraUnFirma Fair/Not Balanced

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    To add a little further to the comparison, here's a shot next to a 2820 that (along with previous iterations) a lot of people used. Granted, if I were on foot, I'd much rather carry the 60CSx, but on a bike, the 60CSx sacrifices a LOT for not much savings in space.

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    Cheers!