Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. flyfishbc

    flyfishbc Adventurer

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    thanks for the feedback on the tires. if you could get the heidenau tires for the same price, which would you choose. My brother can get them for me at wholesale, making the price pretty close.:freaky
  2. Mr_Chris

    Mr_Chris Get away, evil car!

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    I'm no tyre expert but I have put over 20000kms (somewhere over 12k miles) and I still had thousands to go. I've had the stockers, the heidinau's and two sets of Dunlop D606 and they're all good for some things and not so good for others.

    I think at this point you need to flip a coin and try a set. If you don't like em, get the others next time.

    With all due respect to all the well-meaning and experienced riders on here, nobody can tell you which tyre you will like most for your riding, roads, weather, and load. All you get online is massive OMG THOSE ARE CRAP or not. And even one case where there was an outcry about a type on the Husabergs being crappy, a guy I think rides his a lot more and better than I do disagrees and says they do fine. Go figure.

    The safest bet is, barring any outcry of problems, don't fit, or something else you hate like say they wear too fast perhaps... just pick the one you feel has the best karma and only then will you learn how it suits you. And it's only a set of tyres, the most changeable part of a bike! :deal

    I see good things on both here, so knock yourself out. Try your brother's sweet deal and then if you don't like 'em you're not out as much.

    That's the only answer I've ever come up with on tyres -- get the big issues checked out online or with mates, sure, then go do them yourself and you can lecture the next guy on whay this tyre is superior for this blah blah blah :lol3

    Good luck. You have an awesome bike to play with tyres on!

    Chris
  3. Mr_Chris

    Mr_Chris Get away, evil car!

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    So I walk into Scotty's Dirt Bike Spares (Ringwood Victoria) today to check on a spare shifter lever for my berg. I look on the effing wall and BLAMMO he's got the Cycra taper mounts right there. feck me swingin' if I didn't buy them on the spot.:lol3 :clap

    Now it's just in the "find the time" bucket as I have a full few days at the moment but I held it next to my stock mount and barring the taper being wrong in the wrong spot, they look like they will do nicely. I will have to (happily) re-vise the bars but that should also mean I can get more adjustment back too!

    Thweet.
  4. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Quite agree. Go get your cash out and try them yourself.



    The question I want answered is :- are the Mitas rears any easier to fit than the Heidenaus.
    The heidis are a BASTARD and I dread getting a flat in the middle of nowhere. Although, having said that, I reckon they're so stiff you could ride out of trouble.

    Another thing...................has anyone experienced cracking on these tyres as in this thread? http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/equipping-bike-whats-best-gear/mitas-e07-have-one-safety-50899 Or have they cured the problem?
  5. fullmonte

    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    This ^ is what I forgot to mention earlier. I had a rear Heidenau go flat on me while riding in an off road park. I was able to ride it up the trail to a level dirt road, but breaking the bead required putting the tire under a KTM 950 side stand. I'm not sure the other thumpers in attendance that day had the weight to unseat the bead. I have changed plenty of tires, but none have required the frustration of the K60. It was a team effort. The spokes still have blood on them from that day.:deal
  6. ducnut

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    I'm guessing they're built on a really stout casing, for the intended purpose; it's a heavy duty tire. If it were built on a more flexible carcass, big bore bikes would probably just shred them, not to mention the sidewalls would be easily damaged. I've changed a lot of tour-bike tires and they're definitely built on a heavier carcass and are usually a two man job, too.
  7. Johno33772

    Johno33772 Johnny Africa

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    Cracking issues are old news...issues have been resolved

    The std E07 was tough to mount ...the Dakar E07 will probably be the same as the Heidenau. Breaking the Bead on rear with a "safety" is always hard, especially on the side of the road.
  8. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Thanks for clearing that up. I'll probably stick with the Heidis on the rear then as I have a place very near to me that can get them. And they last forever.
  9. soldierguy

    soldierguy Been here awhile

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    I just had K60 Scouts put on my 800XC today. I was pretty surprised at how stiff the rear in particular was, and was glad that I was having it installed rather than doing it myself.

    On the ride home from the shop they felt a little squirrely. Got home and the pressures were way too high. Adjusting the tire pressures then cutting off all the little hairs made them feel much better. Took the bike out this afternoon for about 120 miles, and they feel good now. I need to recheck the pressures in the morning though to get a true cold psi reading. I'm thinking I'll try about 30/35 psi front/rear initially (for the road), then adjust from there.

    Yes, I actually took the time to cut all the little hairs off...I'm a little OCD, I didn't work today, and I don't have a wife to yell at me for using the tiny nose hair scissors on the bike. :D
  10. burmbuster

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    I did the same thing except I also had a TKC 80 front that I snipped all of the rubber bits off of as well. How long did it take to do front and rear tires? About 3 beers.:1drink
  11. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    That'll do OK. Those are the pressures I use especially with luggage. Although I have found them still OK on road at 15F/20R when coming off dirt back onto the road. They are stiff buggers.
  12. doxbike

    doxbike Been here awhile

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    Can't remember where I got the figures (maybe from Leslie and Cheryl's trip to Alaska?) but I run 33F and 36R on the street and it handles like a slot car. Drop down 7 psi on each end, 26F and 29R for easy OTR, and down another 6 psi for the deep stuff. Of course what do I know? I got to know some sagebrush and rocks on a first name basis last week-end:muutt
  13. NABRXX

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    Put down the cash for a green 2013 800xc...should be ready for pick up by next week...I'm an ex gs800 owner ( wrecked it)...looking forward to the smooth triple!!!
  14. some call me...tim

    some call me...tim Been here awhile

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    I have a set of Oxford heated grips that I want to hook up, and would like to use switched power--the set I have claims to switch them off if the voltage gets too low, but I don't readily trust that. Ideally, I'd like to use the connection for the OEM heated grips, but if I understand correctly, that won't work because of a relay that turns the power on to that connection separately from the ignition? I know there's the Eastern Beaver kit you can get to make it plug and play, but I was hoping to get these installed this weekend. Is there any way around the relay without getting the EB kit? Or another easy-ish circuit to tap into? (I know people have used headlight circuits before, but I've also heard that's generally a no-no.)
  15. Ducken

    Ducken Been here awhile

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    (Heidi K60's) Likewise 33 front, 36 rear with excellent results for the last 8000 miles. Switched from 140 rear to 150 wide after the first 1000 miles, I think the 140 is better off road, but like the 150 better on road and it works well enough off road, just to stir up another hornets nest. Ken :amazon

    How appropriate for my 100th post to stir up trouble...
  16. Mr_Chris

    Mr_Chris Get away, evil car!

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    Tim,

    All the relays are the same -- well maybe not every single one but... I looked last time and saw the same relay on three or more circuits. It's a key on thing, just what you want -- it's not "separately from the ignition", if I understand what you meant correctly. If the relay is there or you get a replacement from your dealer for the one you don't have, then the problem is the switch has no less than 6 wires going to it, so you'll need to find the load power vs the lamp power & I guess vampire it or whatever you want. It's all right under the tank just behind the head stock when you have it installed factory, so the harness bits should be tucked away there for you.

    If I recall correctly the grips and auxiliary lights are the same relay, and I believe headlights, and instrument cluster too -- the lamps and grips ones are hiding down on the side of the rad under the cowls, and the others are in the battery compartment.

    Chek with your meck a nick,
  17. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    This is easy if you take the tank off. There's a plug for the Triumph grips. Just follow my photos here :- http://s396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/black955tiger/TIGER800XC LV11UXM/HEATED GRIPS INSTALL/
  18. Evomx971

    Evomx971 Wave as you fly over

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    Sorry if someone else has already shared, but as anyone that has ever changed the rear tire on an 800XC knows, the bead is something terrible to get knocked down without a tire machine. Major fear of having to do it along the road and I would consider myself very proficient and changing tires. I had one of those chisel shaped bead poppers in my bag but had tried using it at home for tire changes and it really didn't help much. The bead area is really wide on that rear rim.

    I saw the Motion Pro Bead Pro reviewed in a magazine and got one immediately.

    http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/articles/view/2782/bead_pro™_tire_tool/

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    It's pricey, I think it was around $75 at my local dealer but it works. It takes about one trip around the bead to get it pushed down a little, but then as you start your second pass, it'll knock it all the way down. The other lever in the pictures is the third one I carry with me. I've had it forever since it works on lots of bikes. Also a Motion Pro item. Has a 27mm on one end. Crazy light weight and works very good as a tire lever.
  19. some call me...tim

    some call me...tim Been here awhile

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    Ah, thanks for the clarification. I had been gung-ho about just going in and installing the grips until I did a quick search to see if anyone had tips and saw that it might not be as straightforward as I thought. If I understand correctly, it should actually be a bit more like I'd originally expected. I am indeed planning on just using a vampire connector to attach to the existing wiring. I'm guessing maybe things are more problematic if one is trying to simply find the female connector to the OEM harness and hardwire that to the grips (which would have 2 wires instead of the OEM's 3.) Or, I could be talking out of my ass. :lol3

    Excellent, thanks for the pics, that will be super helpful. :thumb I'd hoped to be able to do this without taking the tank off, but it sounds like it might be worth the extra effort in this case.
  20. dljocky

    dljocky Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the report on this. I've been looking at it for a good while now, even while it was being in the pre-production mode. I think I'll get one.