Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    Nothing wrong with the 2011. Mine is still going strong! All the recalls were easy to fix and nothing to make the bike worthless. I had a DL1000 for 2 years and put 2,000 miles. I hated that bike. And I mean hate. I tried to like it and just couldn't. Their are thousands of DL1000 followers that Love their bike. Sold it and eventually bought the Tiger. I'll have at least 20,000 on my tiger before the 2 year mark. Just proof that not everyone likes the same bikes. Like said above, Ride one...
  2. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    I had the same issue, different part, with them. They took forever and way too much bullshit of calling them.

    People think they are a dealer. They're not; just an online retailer. They order the parts, when you order them, and ship when they get them.

    Not possible, with the work stated.

    You can read through JD's progress, on his Daytona 675, here. I know it's not an 800, but, you can look through all the stuff he did and what his gains were for each modification.
  3. Seventy One

    Seventy One Been here awhile

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    I just double checked and it was the owners manual I found, not the factory service manual. Sorry 'bout that.
  4. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    That may be your clue. The short one is for the roadie and the other for the XC. AFAIK it was only the XC that had problems with it hitting the swingarm.
  5. bluesman

    bluesman Long timer

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    Yes. You going to go nuts every time you can't ride it :wink: because of work or kids or weather or etc. etc.

    I sure am.

    Amongs previous bikes I had Honda VTR1000F. I loved that bike - I like 90 twins a lot.
    Yet despite it is much more loads and loads of fun (on paved road and in sport-ish environment, granted) than for example Wee (and I did ride both 1000 and 650) and more like SV, I still have to admit that even that bike did not make me wanting to ride more than Tiger.
    Which is bummer because of kids, work and weather :lol3
    Rant off.
  6. ducatirdr

    ducatirdr Re-entry Noob

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    I've been lurking this thread as I'm waiting for winter to break so I can go pick up my new 800XC. I've wondered about moving from my twin only existence to a triple. While I had a couple V4 Hondas back in the 80's, the rest of my riding has been limited to all types of twins. (Triumph Bonni, Harley, Duc 996, BMW, Buell, as well as a couple little race bikes that were twins...) I am curious if the triple will hit all the buttons with me. I didn't get a chance to test ride one of these so I was happy to see that a V-twin owner was happy to make the switch. I found the 1200RT BMW left me wishing it had more character from the engine. I did a thousand miles in 15 hours on that bike so it covered highway miles OK. But I never looked at that bike as nothing more than an appliance. I sold it a year ago and was thinking the triple 800XC might be the ticket for longer road rides to those big bike DS dirt rides I have been hearing about. Time will tell.

    Chime in if you came from bikes with more character than civility and love your triple 800.
  7. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    its a different motor for sure. you will just need to ride one. I think they kind of ride like inline 4 sport bikes. it will be much faster than it sounds... different torque curve than a twin. idk, just ride one. they are fun!
  8. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Factory service/shop manual as PDF: PM_Me_for_a_URL :D

    I found it the day AFTER I ordered the $45 printed copy. Both are complete shop manuals.
  9. doxbike

    doxbike Been here awhile

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  10. markbvt

    markbvt Long timer

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    I came from a Wee-Strom as well, though I went with an XC ABS. The Tiger is way, way more bike than the Wee, better in every way except fuel consumption/range (gas mileage is slightly lower, by about 5mpg, and the tank is a little smaller).

    There's not really anything to look out for. As burmbuster pointed out, the few recalls were for noncritical things -- center stand (the stand itself and the spring, but this only applies to early ones, if there's even one fitted) and an updated engine map. A limited VIN range of Tiger 800s also had a recall to replace the shifter return spring (mine was among them but never exhibited any issues; I had it done anyway since it was on Triumph's dime, and got the updated center stand and engine map at the same time).

    For what it's worth, I've got 31,000 miles on my Tiger and haven't had any issues. It hasn't even needed a valve adjustment. Awesome bike.

    I came from riding twins and singles too, and I'm not a big fan of inline-4s at all. But I love the triple in the Tiger. Great engine. I intend to always have one in my garage from now on.

    --mark
  11. Seb1234

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    Unfortunately this SWMotech just appeared as less robust than the Triumph's one.
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    I can't tell if the OEM one would have survived too, but it seems to be one piece built instead of this multiple parts assembly.
  12. ducnut

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    I've owned my SS, since new. I'd had a few I-4s, before that, and always felt they were missing something. After the first SS test ride, I was sold. I loved the twin's power characteristics and engine pulse. Fast forward to '05 and me getting on the track. I quickly exceeded the bike's capabilities. After looking at the cost/benefit deal of upgrading the SS, I started shopping for a track bike. I'd come down to getting a 749S. However, my friend, and dealer, suggested a Daytona 675. I'd mulled over the 600cc options, but, knew none had any low-/mid-range. But, the Daytona had a ton of torque and was smooth, when lugging it. I bought one, in '06. The next year, I test rode a Tiger 1050 and was hooked. In '09, I stumbled upon a used one being sold by an inmate. I bought it. Unfortunately, I've had some health issues that have affected my upper body strength and ability to handle a loaded motorcycle, especially two-up. Because of that, I test rode an 800 Roadie, last fall. That bike, to me, is a great balance between the 675's willingness to spin and the comfort of my Tiger. The 1050 engine makes a whole lot more torque, but, one can feel all the weight and it's much slower to rev than the smaller engine. The 800 is much smoother, but, is still a lot more torquey than an I-4 of equal size, without the chugginess of a twin. I still love the characteristics of a twin. But, for day-to-day use, I'll take a triple, as it's so much more refined and has great torque and power. It really is a great compomise between an I-4 and twin. I think you'll be smitten with the bike, upon a test ride.

    Interestingly, I test rode an 1100RT or 1150RT (can't remember, as it was years ago) and felt the same as you did with the 1200RT.
  13. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    Both model centerstands were subject to the TSB and both redesigned.
  14. turboICE

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    That had to be an *incredibly hard* hit. Mine suffered two very jarring hits going through some down trail rock gardens and survived as well as any plate I have ever had with no separation (but big dents...). Yes they are riveted but not exactly pop rivets. Yes they will separate with enough force but an amount of force that would likely require any plate to be replaced. As hard as that hit had to have been, based on how clean the plate is with no oil or engine parts in the seams I would say the plate did work. It is a substantial piece of kit.

    I got it because I think form and function wise it is the best fit for me and my needs. Though when I replace it I probably will get it welded because hey you know it couldn't hurt and it doesn't cost much.

    I think anyone else that likes the design should get it and if the rivets are a concern, get it welded.
  15. burmbuster

    burmbuster Long timer

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    And thats exactly why I chose the Altrider bash plate. The rivets on the SW Motech unit are known to do this. Nothing will beat a fully welded assembly.
  16. burmbuster

    burmbuster Long timer

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    The only way to weld the SW Motech plate would be to tig weld it. And you would have to seal weld it, as it all the way around on both sides of the mating surfaces. Unless you have a tig welding set up at home it would probably cost more to weld it properly than to just buy a more durable unit.
  17. cug

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    Yes, that's correct - I just wasn't absolutely certain that there wasn't a silent redesign after that first one and at first I couldn't find a clue on the stand itself.

    After getting home yesterday evening I did some more digging and found that the paperwork of the repair showed the new part number while the stand itself is the old one:

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    They listed it on the invoice as A9778004 which is the redesigned model with the two bumpers on the stand legs as can be seen in the mounting instructions:

    http://www.triumphinstructions.com/ProdDocs/A9778004-US.pdf

    So, one year after the old ones were pulled out of circulation and supposedly had to be send back to Triumph, my dealer managed to put that POS on my bike while still listing it as the new model number in the paperwork.

    This is driving me insane. First the whole thing about hitting a deer and breaking my wrist, then it took six weeks to get a stupid alternator cover from England, then more trouble with the repairs when I first got my bike back, therefore back in the shop, now I find that shit with the center stand ... there's a little voice telling me that I'm not very lucky with this bike.
  18. pilot3

    pilot3 Been here awhile

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    Cug,

    I start the bitching to your dealer ASAP and then make sure you document everything to send to Triumph HQ. Utterly ridiculous that they try to pass that off. It doesn't surprise me though with the levels of shit at dealerships now though. Parts has to order it, Service writes you up (a writer) and then a tech installs it. One hand usually does not know or care what the other is doing which results is what you're dealing with.

    My local dealer here is new to Triumph (about a year) but they are over the top conscientious. I had a problem with a fog light switch (two different part numbers for similar switches). My parts guy got in touch with a Triumph warehouse supervisor who had someone pull the part off the shelf and photograph it for me. They emailed me the picture directly to confirm the part was right before I paid and they shipped. That's been the type of service I've been getting for the past year.

    Keep us posted
    p3
  19. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    The problem isn't the bike the problem is you are stuck relying on other people which these days means there is a good chance you will be let down. I don't have a facebook account but if you do you might want to do a little bitching on the triumph page regarding having to wait 6 weeks for a common replacement part such as the alternator cover. They seem to monitor that FB page more than any other form of communication from what I have heard.
  20. cug

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    I agree that it's not the bike - but it's giving me a bad after taste after all these troubles. I've never had so much trouble with any vehicle I had and that's giving me headaches. I have so little spare time because I work my ass off in my normal job, so I don't want to spend ANY of that spare time with hassles like this.

    Pilot, where are you? I want that type of service, too!

    Btw: I do get this type of service from my BMW dealership. I never had any issues with them, when they made a mistake, they went above all expectations to make it right, and so on. I'm not a brand snob, I've had bikes from most big manufacturers over the years, but my brand selection tends to go more and more towards where I get the best service. Even if I like another bike a little better, I'll keep myself away from it because I know what it means for me if I get these troubles again. I plain have better things to do with my spare time than dealing with this. And a good shop goes a loooooong way towards a hassle free and happy vehicle ownership.

    Quick update: I don't have a Facebook account and I don't want to create one just for that. Just another decision I made long ago ...