Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. Yankee Dog

    Yankee Dog Long timer

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    I am speaking from experience. The chain is significantly tighter when adjusted on the center stand.

    The other day I had it up on the centerstand and decided to check the chain tension. Hmmm... a bit loose. So I whipped out the tools and adjusted to the loose end of the spec like I always do. Finished up and dropped it off the center stand. Then checked it one more time.

    Whoaa. Way too tight. Check the manual. Sure enough, check on side stand. Readjust and move it back to where is was in the first place.
  2. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    It's only significantly tighter if you adjust it to the specs which states it is to be adjusted on the side-stand.

    You can adjust a chain on the center OR side stand and it be in spec, you just have to be aware of the procedure. It's poppcock to say you can't adjust the chain on the center stand - that's how I've always done it.

    On a related note, I'll take a slightly loose chain over a tight one any day...
  3. MotoTex

    MotoTex Miles of Smiles

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    This is exactly what I was trying to convey in that procedure above to make a tool that shows the spec for adjusting on the centerstand.

    As the swingarm rotates further down, the chain will be more slack than it would on the sidestand and this must be taken into account.

    Adjust it to spec on the sidestand, then put it on the centerstand and measure the freeplay for the NEW spec to be used whenever adjusting it on the centerstand and you are golden.

    Not exactly rocket science, but it can be confusing when how the slack changes at different points of suspension travel isn't fully realized.
  4. Yankee Dog

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    Take a chill pill my friend. I was only answering the gentlemens question. I never said one shouldnt take your most accurate advice. I only said there was indeed a difference.

    I also agree that it is best to run a chain on the loose side.
  5. some call me...tim

    some call me...tim Been here awhile

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    While on the subject of chain adjustment, has anyone noticed their adjustment blocks on the swingarm not being symmetrical? I had the back wheel off the other weekend to put new tires on, and when we were getting everything reinstalled, my buddy noticed that the adjuster blocks were significantly different in their position on the swingarm.

    On the left side, you can see that the block is just a couple millimeters from the end of the swingarm:
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    Whereas on the right side, there's a good half inch from the end of the swingarm:

    [​IMG]

    We measured the axle to swingarm pivot over and over, and everything seems to be correct there, but it seems weird that they'd be spaced so differently. :huh
  6. swimmer

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    OK. Then there appears to be a difference between the Roadie (or at least my bike with -2 in the back plus lifting links) and the XC.

    FWIW, I am fully aware of how to adjust my chain etc... I was just interested in this data point for the XC.
  7. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    I go by the indicator dots. Appears to be perfectly aligned. No bad manners, no vibes, nada.
  8. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    I gotta think you've got it adjusted correctly (properly aligned) as you'd have to try to have it that far out of whack. My bike is not like that.
  9. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    One word for anyone having trouble adjusting their chain, shaft. Go buy an Explorer or Tenere or GS. I used to be a shaft only kind of guy, hated chains. BUT my wife has only ever ridden chain driven bikes, SO I was stuck with chain maintenance anyway. I realized a few years ago that it really doesn't matter what drive a bike uses, I just buy the bike that I want to ride. And modern chains are pretty damn easy to maintain.

    I do as a few have suggested. Adjust on the side stand, put it back on the center stand and re-measure so I know where to adjust to next time. Also check the frame alignment notches or detents on a new bike to see if they're accurate.

    Best way to check tension is as one poster mentioned, line up the axle, swingarm pivot, and front sprocket. Use a tie down over the seat to the swingarm. Once they are in line you should have just a slight bit of slack, about 1/2" is plenty as the chain can never get any tighter at that point. Release the tie strap and then put your bike on the side stand, center stand, whichever you prefer and use that as your chain tension.

    On our sons dirt bikes we just used four fingers between swingarm and chain, now those were run loose.

    [​IMG]

    How to do it with pretty pictures...
    http://www.easterndirt.com/?p=207

    Great tip at the end for making a small wooden chain tension tester. :deal

    [​IMG]
  10. SMIFFXC

    SMIFFXC Been here awhile

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    I'm not at home so I can't look at mine but is there a chance you have one of those blocks upside down? I had the dealer put mine on upside down last year and I had to fix it when I got home. You can't see the marks if it is upside down. Just a thought.
  11. some call me...tim

    some call me...tim Been here awhile

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    Hmm, considering I didn't realize there was even an upside down, that's entirely possible. I'll have to take a look later, thanks for the advice.
  12. swimmer

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    And while I know it's not a very popular solution for whatever reason, if you install a Pro-Oiler and set it up and use it correctly your chain adjustment become pretty much non-existent. Mine gets adjusted when the wheel comes off for tire replacement which is about every 10-14k miles.
  13. T

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    Yep. Left side is up side down. Won't hurt anything since the chain tension adjusting bolts keep the alignment.. Just change it the next time you have the axle nut off.

    Right Side

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    Left Side

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    Pics make it look out of alignment but in reality it's good.
  14. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    Tried a ScottOiler on two of my bikes and didn't like them. Sure they kept the chain lubed but they flung gunk everywhere even though they were adjusted for proper flow, one to two drops a minute. And I think I spent more time trying to keep the tube end hitting the chain / sprockets than I ever have lubing a chain. More trouble than they're worth to me. Lubing isn't a chore and takes 5 minutes for both bikes on a trip so yeah I just don't worry about it.
  15. swimmer

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    Understand your frustration with the Scott Oiler. I was referring to the Pro-Oiler though. Very different.
  16. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    I have a mini can of PJ1 in the top box. :deal
  17. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    BTW, I put my road tires back on the bike, the trails that came with it, they're such a great tire for mostly road.

    Did a mountain trip last weekend, couple'a hundred miles, and was getting the dreaded wheel hop out front. Leaned over at 30 or so it was pretty noticeable.

    So when I got home I got my spoke wrench back out as I had "tuned" all the spokes when I did the tire change and thought maybe I had pulled the front rim out of true. Nope, not a waiver, nothing, nada. Tire is true, really close in balance (static).

    Then I grabbed the fork legs at the bottom to check the head bearings and found quite a bit of play. Pulled off the top clamp and tightened the nuts and the play went away. Seems I have no more wheel hop now. Keep an eye on those head bearings. About 6K miles on the bike.
  18. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Lets not get into another Scottoiler debate but I'll just say this:-
    A Scottoiler lubricates for the whole of your journey whereas a spray lube just lubricates at the beginning, until it gets washed off or flings off. Also that constant drip of oil helps keep the chain cool so the internal grease doesn't melt and flow past the seals which is probably most of the reason chains last longer with a Scottoiler.
  19. WhereIsBobL

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    You have the left adjuster block upside-down. The back end is slanted. Probably does not really matter which way you put it in, but it will be visually different.
  20. markbvt

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    Your left side one's upside down. Remove axle nut, remove block, flip it over, reinstall.

    --mark

    EDIT: Should have read further; several people beat me to it. :D