Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. OldDog

    OldDog aka Hugh Jarse

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    Got a question Guys, I've just been fiddling with forks and noticed the steering stem bolt was loose, I've seen that mentioned here before. Anyway I decided, while the forks were out I'd strip this down and regrease and retension. Never had this apart before so imagine my surprise when I find it uses angular contact ball bearings in there rather than the tapered roller bearing that is so common. I would have thought you'd get a better tensioned front end using tapers rather than ball rollers? Has anyone tried this?

    Cheers

    Bill
  2. Aussie Trev

    Aussie Trev aka DRTrev

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    Hi guys,

    I've bought a Tiger 800XC which has the Triumph fog lights fitted (the ones with the alloy surround). One of the globes has blown (H3) but, for the life of me, I cannot work out how to split the fog light to get at the globe. Can someone help this simpleton please??:cry
  3. pilot3

    pilot3 Been here awhile

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    My best recollection is you need to remove the housing from the mounts in the surround. Then remove the screws and disassemble the globe from the housing. If I'm missing something, I'll be able to get a better look for you in the morning.

    p3
  4. Aussie Trev

    Aussie Trev aka DRTrev

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    I managed to remove the light from under the frame, undid the two screws at the back and expected the whole thing to fall apart in my hands, but not to be. :huh

    Any help appreciated.
  5. Gronked

    Gronked Adventurer

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    Thanks for the feedback re Roadie vs XC. If the on-road performance of the XC is as people say it is, then it'll be a no-brainer.... sounds like a bike that really can do everything.

    I'm going to a dealer to test ride tomorrow.

    Thanks again :)
  6. Yankee Dog

    Yankee Dog Long timer

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    one thing to remember is the Roadie has tubeless tires. The XC runs tubes. Fixing a flat on the XC will be an ordeal compared to the simple plug required by the Roadie.
  7. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    You need to ride them both, back to back. To me they were more similar than different, but for my needs the XC was oh so plush. I was concerned about the see-sawing with longer more plush suspension, but it's not there unless you really hammer brake or throttle. The plushness is what I liked, coming from a Versys that was more or less harder than a rock. I ride pretty fast, but not sport bike fast. The roadie has an edge in the twisties, but the XC works better everywhere else.

    I think there were a LOT of us that weren't sure, but now there's no question in my mind. Yeah, would rather have tubeless, but I get so few flats I figured it wasn't worth a consideration. I can break a bead and fix or replace a tube if I have to.

    My local ADV'rs always end up on some dirt, GS's, 990's, 950's, etc. I was just sure it was gonna end up on at least some dirt roads. It works great for that, although I don't ride it like a dirtbike - I have a TE630 for that and will be taking it again for our annual Grand Canyon North Rim Ride. It's 700 miles of dirt and the husky is just easier to handle.

    The wife also started coming along and so we were looking something better than the Versys for us. So I was looking at the Roadie. The XC does two just as well, so that also became a non-issue.

    In the end there were too many reasons to opt for the XC. With 6K miles now I KNOW I made the right decision. Coming from a GS I think you would be happier with the XC. If you were coming from a GSXR, then the T800 roadie. :D
  8. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    +1, completely agree.
  9. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    It surprised me too when I took mine apart but apparently a lot of modern bikes now use A/Contact balls. After fiddling with mine it did seem that the A/C bearings are less critical when tensioning them.
  10. Ephrem

    Ephrem n00b

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    I'm sure someone has fitted a set to the roadie.

    Can you share size, handling and lifespan?

    Thanks
  11. Aussie Trev

    Aussie Trev aka DRTrev

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    Have found some electronic instructions for the spot lights and I was on the right track; remove the two screws from the rear and pull out the lens cover.....I tried that, but will now add some extra muscle.

    cheers
  12. Gronked

    Gronked Adventurer

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    Thanks Browneye. I did just what you said today and rode each one back to back... and ended up with the XC :)

    I think you are spot on the money with your assessment. The roadie would probly be a bit nicer in twisties, but it's debateable as to whether I'm a good enough rider to make full use of it.

    The XC suspension was nicer than I expected (better than the F800GS which I owned briefly) and the roadie felt a little small and, well, like a road bike.

    Got to do a 1.5 hour ride home from the dealers and so far I'm happy :)
  13. marloweluke

    marloweluke The Flying Dutchman

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    I'm on my second rear 150/70/17 PR3 and still on my first front 110/80/19 PR3. They are an awesome tire, can't fault them. Never slid on me and I ride pretty hard. They handle awesome. The profile of the rear seems a little flat compared to a Conti Road Attack, but it is not an issue at all. I have the Dual Purpose front and rear, where the outside 10% (each side) of the rear tire has the stickier compound. Check the Michelin site to see what I mean. I got 8,600 km out of my first rear, my second rear has about 6,000 on it now and still looks quite good. The front is also looking really good still and has those two mileages combined on it. I'm going to try the Conti RA next for a big road trip I have coming up, but I suspect I won't get the mileage out of them. Likely I will go back to the PR3's or try a Bridgestone BT-023 to see. You really can't go wrong with the PR3. No negatives whatsoever except maybe price. They are a few bucks more than the competition, but the increased lifespan offsets that easily.
  14. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Congrats!! Another new Tiger owner. They've been really popular and gaining I think. What color? Where's the pics??? Pics or it didn't happen. :rofl

    I can ride pretty aggressively on twisty roads, but loath to do so on a public throroughfare. I quit riding for almost 4 years because I just knew I was going to kill myself the way I was riding. Getting back into it I promised myself to slow down, enjoy the ride, and be extra careful. I still hate blind right corners and slow down for them. I'm sure that pisses off a few riders behind from time to time. Bottom line is I don't really care if the road version is a little faster in the sweepers. :evil
  15. jimjim

    jimjim Just another FF!

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    Tiger 800 Roadie & PR3's

    I just mounted a set of the PR3 Trails on my T800. Really impressed with the handling. I haven't ridden in the rain yet but they are supposed to be awesome on wet roads. Only have about 1500 miles on them so far so I have no idea on the longevity.

    http://www.michelinmotorcycle.com/index.cfm?event=pilotroad3trial
  16. Boianovich

    Boianovich Old and Cautious

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    I couldn't have said it any better:freaky
  17. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    it makes it hard to stop with a disk brake and pad covered in fork oil
  18. NobeyamaGP

    NobeyamaGP Nerdy Adventurer

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    He's not the only one. I just picked up a lightly used one myself. I've had it about a month already and I absolutely love it.
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    I've already managed to break a clutch lever, no thanks to the factory "handguards". Replacement lever and Barkbusters are on the way though. I guess I'm not helping the case for the orange ones being unstable. :lol3
  19. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Nice!! :eek1
  20. marloweluke

    marloweluke The Flying Dutchman

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    Congratulations!!! Sounds like you got the right one that suits your needs.