Triumph Tiger 800

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by ScrambDaddy, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    That would be efficient for a shop, no doubt. For a home mechanic? Naw. I just take a run down to my indy and he exchanges what I've got for what I need. Half the time it's just one out of a whole group. Some of those shim kits are hundreds, although seems to me the hotcams one is like $100 or something. I could see for a guy either way out off the grid, or with a LOT of bikes using the same diameter shims.

    What other bikes have our size shim??

    No need for a pitbull with a center either. :deal
  2. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    I have both 7 and 9mm. The 9s are left over from our sons KTM. The 7s worked in my Honda and now the Triumphs.
  3. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    Umm. Well, a shop sees more than just Tigers with centerstands. :lol3
  4. Seventy One

    Seventy One Tick Magnet

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    I live two hours from my 'local' Triumph dealer so doing all my own work has been part of the plan even before buying it. So far I'm into it for a brand new lap top, Dealer Tool software and a few hand tools. Picking up a set of shims won't be an issue.

    I don't want the bike to be down for more than a few hours so getting everything together before I begin is going to be essential in making that happen.

    To those that have done this before, how difficult/tricky is this job? It doesn't look too bad to me, but I am a bit concerned about pulling the cams and possibly getting the timing off. Is there anything here that's easy to screw up?
  5. The Jerk

    The Jerk Bring us some fresh wine!

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    If it's your first valve check it's quite likely you won't have to make any adjustments at all. I haven't done the job on the 800 yet but I did it on the 1050 and it's pretty straightforward.

    If you do have to pull cams to make adjustments, key items will be getting the engine to TDC on #1 and then NOT ROTATING IT with the cams off, as well as not letting the timing chain fall into the engine when removing cams.

    You really should have the service manual for this job as it points out the proper alignment of all the timing marks that would be essential for re-assembly after camshaft removal - as well as the proper order in which to remove and install the cam ladder bolts if need be.

    It's imperative that you get the cam timing right when re-installing, else you will have valves striking pistons as the engine rotates, which is engine rebuild time.
  6. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    Funny how 'paddock stands' have become 'pitbull' stands these days. Now that's branding for ya... :D

    You do have the shop manual, right? My valve adjust is gonna be coming up here real soon as well. I'd be surprised if they're out.

    Out for a night ride last night and marveled at how smooth the bike was. Still getting to know this thing after 8K miles. Shifts like butter.
  7. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    Checking is pretty straight forward, just gets a bit more involved if any are out, then you have to pull the cams. Haven't done my Tiger yet but my wife's Street Triple was pretty cramped on a couple of exhaust valves, not a lot of room. Hopefully the Tiger isn't quite as tightly packaged as the Street Triple was. Take your time and double, triple check things. Before I do mine I want to find a good set of angled gauges, I think they would make those cramped one easier to get to.
  8. ducnut

    ducnut Long timer

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    I got the guys actual Pit Bull brand and started stocking them, too.

    Again, I came unglued, when I saw a 2X4 and floor jack being used under a sportbike's titanium header to lift the bike. When I questioned the tech, he responds with "That's just how we've been doing it.". The replacement cost was more than 2 of his week's wages.
  9. henkew

    henkew Adventurer

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    My Tiger 800XC throttle died on me. It starts, but turn the throttle and nothing. I took the handle off and the throttle cable is kinked up, it locked down at the engine. I can start it and it will move on the idle throttle level. Not sure what that means, trying to figure that out now. And can you believe it, right when the full warranty from Triumph expired. I am in Chistochina, Alaska. Halfway through a 3 week trip. I know there is a Triumph dealership in Anchorage. Does anyone have any suggestions?

    Thanks!

    UPDATE
    Cable is severed, in the middle. This seems unusal, how often does this happen. Can I use a bicycle cable to get me to anchorage? I am just suprised at this. Those things don't seem like they would be under the stress to cause them to just break in the middle.
  10. pilot3

    pilot3 Been here awhile

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    Quick note: I've been working with Pitbull to make a headlift stand pin for the Tiger Roadie and XC. The last prototype they sent me was spot on for the Roadie. George at Pitbull was waiting for me to test it on an XC, but I'm almost positive it will be fine. Pitbull will be updating their product charts soon but they've got one if you need it.
  11. motonut

    motonut Old Guy

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    I read through a discussion on another forum :eek1 where it was stated that the valve shims diameter is 9.48mm. Can you confirm that this is wrong and that 7.48mm is right for the Tiger 800?

    Thanks.
  12. Charrito

    Charrito Been here awhile

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    Yep...bicycle cable will do it, just get the right lenght.

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  13. MotoTex

    MotoTex Miles of Smiles

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    Talk to the dealer. I've read many examples of Triumph corp being lenient on granting warranty repair for folks just outside the limit. The cable obviously was failing for some period of time during the warranty period, and just didn't break until after. They might see things the same. Can't hurt to try.

    Good luck with the bicycle cable repair. Sounds like a good improvised replacement to get you to the dealer.
  14. Crab bait

    Crab bait Been here awhile

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    Bike cables only come in one length, they're trim to fit. However they do come in two different diameters, one for brakes and the other for derrailleurs and the ends are different. This is where you want to be careful.
  15. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    "Checked valve lash last week. 12,100 miles on Odo.

    Intake were perfect, exhaust were right at the bottom of the range. I did not have the right shims so buttoned it back up and will bring to mid-range next time I get a chance.

    BTW, Shims are of the 7.48 diameter variety."

    From this thread on tiger.co.uk
    Valve shim diameter

    I searched through the entire service manual and they give the specs for the bucket size and bucket bore but not the shim size. They should have included it in the service manual.
  16. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    +1

    Crank on my Sprint snapped well out of warranty. Known issue with a batch of cranks incorrectly heat-treated (outside supplier) - Triumph covered everything.
  17. Mtneer

    Mtneer Been here awhile

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    I'll be calling them up for one, there are paddock stands, and there are PitBull stands, make mine PitBull, good company and product.
  18. av_mech

    av_mech Risk Taker

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    Howdy all! Yes, I'm still alive. Been riding but haven't been updating my thread. I'm about five rides behind getting them written about. New pretty girl and new business takes up a lot of time. On the plus side, she's totally into this ADV thing with me and has ridden almost 5000 miles on the back of Hobbes in the past six months. :crash

    Down to business. I've still got this P0500 Wheel Speed Sensor malfunction happening. I've gotten it about 10 times over 27,500 miles of riding. It flags the MIL light. Usually in the middle of $%^&ing nowhere so I get to worry what the hell is going on. It usually happens in very very dry, fine, chalky dust conditions. Anybody else getting this error?
  19. av_mech

    av_mech Risk Taker

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    Also, I learned Hobbes does not like to go under water. Had to empty out the cylinders in the MIDDLE of nowhere. Emma Creek in Ross Fork Basin, ID was running like a banshee and the 2-up crossing didn't go so well. Got it running though!

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    My trooper of girlfriend that I had totally submersed from the pillion, forded back across this rager in full moto gear to take this video coming back across. Fun times.

    You can ignore the last minute of the video as I fight to get off a rock.

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  20. boinoodle

    boinoodle Old and Cautious

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    You are my hero! I thought I was pushing the Tiger pretty hard, but no even close:huh

    Just goes to show, I'm the limiting factor, not the bike. Thanks for the inspiration :freaky