tubed tire will not seat - sorry search is broken

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  1. ohgood

    ohgood Long timer

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    apologies, the search never happened. google fu/foo/fool is weak.



    +1 new front sedona knobby, looks round to me
    +2 hours on the trucks bed liner in the sun
    +1 drz front wheel (cause the back would be difficultererer)
    + 1 gallon dawn + water, or wd40, or motor oil, or well, i've tried everything in the garage now
    +85psi

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    the damned thing still won't set in the bead as it should. i've a stack of tires taller than me that didn't have this problem.

    i've gone up/down on the pressure but 85 psi was my limit. i really don't want to get impaled. i've hammered on it, dropped it from shoulder height, rode it at 30 mph with 8psi, rode it at 70mph at 20 psi, kicked it and used all my really good cuss words.

    it will not seat.

    ideas not covered already ?

    (yes, the tire is in the rim lock correctly, no it's not tightened yet)
    (yes, i cleaned the rim/bead)
    (yes, i put a 21" tube in, not a 26, or 700c, or whatever)

    ok, fire away.
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  2. concours

    concours WFO for 41 years

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    deflate completely, core out, squeeze tire inward to expose bead area, slather with soap/water mix, quickly inflate, install core, enjoy:1drink
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  3. Switchblade315

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    Go to a tire shop and get a glob of some of that lube they smear on a tire before they mount them. Or come to Ms. And I'll send you home with some.

    Get some of that, break the bead and lube like mad. It drys clean inflate and it should go. I've never had it fale me and I've seen it work when other things will not.
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  4. CrazyTed

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    Also be sure there's nothing on the rim in the way. I've seen guys use duct tape on their rims to cover the spokes and they put it out too far where the bead goes. Also, I've seen guys with rims that are corroded and the corrosion prevents the bead from seating.
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  5. Lucida

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    Got the same problem, no matter what I did, it just don't seat. Learn from youtube by using tie wrench, it become very easy to seat the bead. problem solved.
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    Don't forget to take the change to do the balance. This is also very easy, no need a fancy balance machine.
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  6. clintnz

    clintnz Trans-Global Chook Chaser

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    Also try pushing the tyre in to the rim a bit opposite the area where it won't seat, as you inflate. My 640 front wheel can be a PITA like that with some tyres.

    Cheers
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  7. RVDan

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    Ask for some better cuss words in Jomamma

    Break the bead and move the tire on the rim, you've obviously got two sticky spots in the same place.

    It is a 21" tire right?
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  8. AlfromNH

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    I just went thru this with tubed street tires on cast rims. I got a gallon jug of RU-Glyde from Pep Boys, slathered that on and the beads slid right into place :clap
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  9. stainlesscycle

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    by far the best lubricant i've used is windex - i have tried them all, and it has worked everytime for me.. make sure rim and bead is clean and rim is straight/not bowed out or in at bead. lubricate, rotate tire 90 degrees on rim. lubricate again. put bad spot up, and push down moderately on rim as you inflate quickly to 40psi or so. wait a while.. if it doesn't seat, pull core, and repeat. riding on it will not seat it.
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  10. ohgood

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    i use duct tape, without a big controversy, I'll double check what you suggested. thanks!
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  11. ohgood

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    I Balance on the bike, after prying out the pads a little. thanks for the reminder
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  12. ohgood

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    good idea, I'll give it a shot. thanks, yes, it's a 21"wheel with tube
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  13. ohgood

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    OK, I'll slather some more, thanks!
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  14. Little R

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    Did you get it to pop? :ear
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    this ones the winner. I had cleaned, but not well enough. the glue from the tape plus dirt and oxidized aluminum looked to be minimal, but wasn't and blended into the corner of the rim.

    was it enough to scrape, sand, and finally clean ?

    no. 75psi finally pushed it in place.


    won't be using duct tape (for that) again.


    the garage rocks, thanks guys!
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  16. stainlesscycle

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    i only use electrical tape. after tearing apart way too many wheels where dpo used duct tape, which turns into a nightmare.. electrical works way better.
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  17. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    Last time I had this issue, big street tire on a cast rim, the problem turned out to be the hose to my compressor. Even with ruglyde and serious pressure, no go. Core out of tube and everything. Went to a bigger hose and got the flow I needed to move the tire FAST. Once the tire starts moving you have to keep it going and skating over the lube, if it hesitates (on the changing contour of the rim) it sticks.
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