TuneECU for 990 - got tunes?

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  1. Zuber

    Zuber Zoob

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    Do as I say, not as I do. Had a TuneECU cable and modified it by 5000 miles. I didn't get it right until after the first valve adjust.

    I have a 2010 990A, G2 throttle, loose valves, 2-1 exhaust, PowerTripp 2-1 tune = very smooth throttle from 2000-6000 rpm, 38-42 mpg, not as fast as an 'R', but on a rocky off-camber hill it will save your ass.
  2. turdfergeson

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    Amen!
  3. rossguzzi

    rossguzzi 990 Adv.

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    Can anyone tell me what the 15 minute tune up does? Iv e done a search and found how to do it, but why and what does it achieve?
    Took mine on a slightly bumpy track yesterday and it is hard to keep a constant throttle.

    07 stock eccept Akra`s. Not sure what map is in it. Guessing it is stock. As said before I am looking at getting a cable and TuneECU map and a G2 Throttle tamer.
  4. Gustavo.Ramos

    Gustavo.Ramos Been here awhile

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    It's a procedure to let the ECU set up the new parameters which the engine is running after loading new maps, etc..

    Has been discussed before about its real usefulness, but it seems to be recomended by the manufacturer.
  5. rossguzzi

    rossguzzi 990 Adv.

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    Another question if I may.............

    Spoke to two of the main Dyno guys here in town and both said they were not interested in fine tuning a map if it is not a live updating type.

    Is the TuneEcu a live updating type?

    One guy said he can do Tune Boy, but from what I can gather that is a lot more $$ to buy etc.

    If I was to get a cable and load up the map from TuneEcu, would I need to fine tune it? I have a 06 Adv with Akra slip ons.
  6. Spark01

    Spark01 V-Twin

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    Clearly those tuners are only to learned to work with a powercommander.
    Hook the stuf to the computer, set AFR 13.0 across the range.
    Do a few pulls on the dyno.
    Presto, there is your custom mapping.....?.
    Everybody with some technical skills and small introduction can do that.

    Tuneecu cannot do a live update unfortunatly, i know tuneboy has a option to do a live update if there is a innovate LC1 is connected to the bike. But i don't know if it works that well.
    For a Tuneboy normally you only have to pay for the tuneboy key at the tuner not buy the complete package which is $$$. price is on their site for only a key.

    But do you need to fine tune your bike if you only upload the arka map on your bike with tuneecu?.
    No you don't, but the map isn't optimal for every bike.
    So it can cause for example a higher fuel consumption.
  7. rossguzzi

    rossguzzi 990 Adv.

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    Digging back through many posts I see this one. Can anyone explain, how to adjust throttle cables properly? Also what does reset the adaptive values mean?

    Another newby trying to fathom all this !
  8. tremmy

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    Australian 09 990s runing wings and prefilter, currently run the 2010 R map. Is it safe to run the original map, or should I run the accro map. o2 sensors on/off. After reading for hours, I am still none the wiser.
    Can someone please clarify this for me. Dont really need the extra power of the R map, but need the extra economy (long trips).
    Cheers Peter
  9. Zuber

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    The pre filter is the big game changer. I know of no specific map for that. It will restrict the airbox, make all the tunes run rich and cause you to need custom tuning. So, go custom or pull it.

    With out the pre-filter, you can safetly run several maps for the 09-up Adventures.

    The stock map for non-R's (09-11) is ok, has throttle control issues, but excellent mileage.

    The Akro map is rich with the O2 sensors turned off. Runs strong, but uses a lot of fuel. Several Inmates have luck running this and turning the O2 sensors on.

    The R map is rich in the upper range, more advanced timing (?) and runs hard. Sensitive throttle down low.

    The Power Tripp maps are a good starting point. These are for 09-up Adv's with no Cats. There is a 2-1 map and a dual exhaust map. I've used the 2-1 map and it has a very smooth throttle 2-6k, decent mileage in the 38-42 mpg range. I've read that the dual exhaust is very good also. I think these are excellent maps as a starting point.
  10. D K

    D K Been here awhile

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    Is it a major projectmto put an R map on the early 990's?
  11. Zuber

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    Load the new maps on the older 07-08 and you could be making bricks.

    I don't know of any plug-n-play solutions for those.
  12. renogeorge

    renogeorge Long timer

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    So, are there no remap options for an '07? Is re map even needed if running stock pipes with only SAS removal and change to foam air filter setup?
  13. Loui€

    Loui€ Rides With Reindeer

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    Hi.

    if your bike is running well, and MPG is OK, so no need to do anything (?)

    as told here earlier many times already, --->2008 and 2009---> are different in cams and ecus, so not the hole maps are interchangeable.

    but you can copy-paste fuel-parts to another;
    does it help, that is another matter.

    I made 2011 fueling to my 2008, it works OK, but I might (or not) go back, trying to get a little bit better MPG...

    Main point for me was that I had bad stallin' issue, and tried to fix it many ways, fuel maps and 2nd b-flies and so, but the reason finally was wrong TPS adjustment (0,65V) + TBs not sync. (bike was in dealers shop to be fixed, but as usuall, afterwards I hade to do it myself to get it right...)
    that combination made the idle to drop to 1000 - 500 - 0 rpm.
    ever since I got them right, she has been running like angel...

    L
  14. pman13

    pman13 Been here awhile

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    Just wanted to say to say thanks to everyone on this thread. I retuned my 07 990S last night and the bike runs so much better. My wonky low throttle twitch is gone, the flat spot at 5K is gone, now I just need to see what the mileage is like. The PO had the Akra map and I was barely getting 100 miles out of a tank, so I can't see it getting any worse.

    Thanks again!:clap
  15. rossguzzi

    rossguzzi 990 Adv.

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    Not sure what you are meaning. Returned to stock map?
    If you have a TuneEcu map and it works, let me know which one? What set up do you have as far as pipes etc?
  16. Loui€

    Loui€ Rides With Reindeer

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    --- reading through the hole thread is useful, takes some time but, please, do it...
    I did that, all useful pages, many many 100:s of pages here in ADV ...
    it is worth while here, so much gold in them to find, can't get that presious info in ktm-shops or anywhere else, they don't know - or tell you...! ---

    adjust cables:
    use tuneecu 'adjust cables' (tests, adjust throttle cable = free step motor), make 1-3 mm 'slack' with the 'screws' in the cable, so cables are not tight.
    if you just tamper the cables, the ecu might hit the roof...

    there is a step motor system (stupid thing, I say, too sophisticated...) for idling, but some 'old school' busy bodies might have tried to adjust you idling by cable to sh*t like mine was...

    if you want to 'by pass' the 'step motor system', there is a mechanic way to do the basic idling by screw by the TB (old school way...), but with a cold motor you need then keep it running faster idling with your hand... not so convinient way to do it...

    and to make final adjustments you need to remove the left tank and open that triangel-plate in the TB-box's side to get to that screw -- not a good idea, I think.

    ---

    reset ad.vals:
    tuneecu, tests, reset adaptation, let 15 min idle, that is it. (adaptation to climate, barometric, life and universe, and everything...)
    or leave it to be, if no problems you have with bike running and driving, it resets simply by driving the bike, time and miles will adjust it anyway...
    I feel that this 15 mins is taken too much as a magic for every problem... (?) :-) I have not found any differences but burning fuel to skies...

    L
  17. pman13

    pman13 Been here awhile

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    I have a stock exhaust with the butterflies removed and a G2 throttle tube. I loaded what I assumed was a stock map and it is good to go.
  18. dep411

    dep411 Been here awhile

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    Just found this thread.

    The dealer wants too much $$$ for me to load the arko map on my 690.

    Just got some goodies and before I put them on the bike I here updating the ecu is necessary. I have the wings slip on and the DNA open box air filter.


    I haven't read through the entire thread yet but I hope it's somewhat easy.

    :freaky

    Gotta find a cable now :)
  19. Irideeverything

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    Thought I would try and see if someone in CT has a cable and software to check my ECU and possibly make changes

    I got this used 08 990 in January. It has this flat spot around 3800-4200 at 1/8 throttle, drive me nuts trying to follow someone in traffic at 45. It's not a throttle twitch, yes I have that too. This is a dead spot where the bike falls flat and stumbles for a second or 2 then revs fine. Aggressive riding thru that range is fine

    I just changed the fuel filters, air filter, new spark plugs and it still has it. Bike just rolled 7k miles....

    Any help is appreciated
  20. Gustavo.Ramos

    Gustavo.Ramos Been here awhile

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    Can't help with geography issues, but sounds like the usual stock map stuff.

    There are many ebay sellers sourcing the cable(s), get one read this thread (there's a compilation by Zuber and start discovering with baby steps the wonders of TuneEcu