Turn your KTM950 into AWD in 3,4,5,??? easy steps

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by cjracer, Nov 6, 2010.

  1. bikyto

    bikyto Dans le doute...gaz!

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    I was waiting for this thread. Very impressive.:clap
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  2. gregneedham

    gregneedham I seem to fall often

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  3. FINNDIAN

    FINNDIAN Mine goes to 11

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  4. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    I could have done it in a 1/4 of the time. :D

    That's all part of it, and although it takes a ton of time, I learn a lot along the way. I'm sure there are faster ways of going about these projects, but working through the ideas and issues is kind of fun. I've not mastered it yet when I can hit the nail on the head first shot.

    So yesterday I was dead flat in bed, sicker than a dog. This morning I woke up and it was feeling 80% better. So... Not to waste a good test day.
    Diesel Joe and I went out for a 130 mile loop on the 950s, not many sunny, 60F days left this year. We did about 8 miles of single track, and sure put this system to work. I could tell it was helping me climb the steep hills. One spot, my rear tire slid down in a muddy, sloppy, rut, at least axle deep. My front wheel was on top to the right yet. I pointed the front wheel forward and the front wheel clawed forward pulling the bike along side-tracking the entire rut about 30 ft long. I just laughed inside my helmet at how easy that was.:ricky
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  5. Wyobrew

    Wyobrew Missed it by that mu

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    CJ,
    As we spoke, the Christini system rocks. I absolutely love it on my 450EXC but the thought of that system on my 950SE would be fantastic.

    I look forward to your posts and politely remind others, if you haven't actually ridden one, you don't really know how well they work.

    Opinions on what is will or won't work are likely to be just that (unless you work for Christini), What CJ is doing will be a great read and I admire him for sharing some of the build process with us. :clap


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  6. Nailhead

    Nailhead Free at last!

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    Yeah, this thread really comes at a bad time for the nation generally.
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  7. mdfehrmann

    mdfehrmann Been here awhile

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    So cool! Rock on man, glad I was there to tear down the 950 to start the rebuild, I still have this picture in my head of using the picnic table as a front stand:eek1
    Say hi to DieselJo for me, went riding myself today and I only fell once:clap
    I learned so much from ya'll!
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  8. codys

    codys Lost in the Vizcaino

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    Wow. I was pretty thrilled with his lc8 luggage rack. Very cool.


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  9. StevenD

    StevenD Hmmmm, dirt!

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    Hi CJ, No idea about the price paid for it, but there's a guy here who bought the kit seperate from a wr450. If your interrested in getting a kit i can send him an email about where he got it from and try to find out the price..
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  10. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    I'd be intereted in looking into all options. Please post your info or send me a PM. thanks.
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  11. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    Trying keep the time line going...

    A few long time members may recall when I stirred the question and got this info:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9511278&postcount=64

    After about a year and half, my thoughts haven't changed much.
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9513317&postcount=72

    I heard back from a few interested parties, but few willing to pay out. I couldn't blame them, for good reason, this had not been tested and who knows how it would work.

    Seeing the smaller bikes w/ the Christini kits take on some of the hardest races in the world, such as Last Man Standing, Erzberg, Romaniacs and EnduroCross series has shown there strength to me, it was time to start asking if I could get some parts for a 950 version.

    I'd not seen any other systems being tested in the public. Lots of emails to Christini back a forth over the following months commenced.
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  12. gagnaou

    gagnaou Long timer

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    I am in, I am reallt curious to see how it is all mounted and even more interested in how well it last with the weight and the power of the 950 versus the smaller bikes.
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  13. cjracer

    cjracer AWD please!!

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    OCT 2009.

    I've had a chance to look over both the Honda and KTM owners Manuals for the Christini systems that were sent to me by Steve. Really trying to figure out how these parts could fit in the the 950 was going to be interesting. We have a bank of carbs on top, 2 cylinders, and a need for a custom tank.

    Jeepboy's 950 "Fire" bike came up on an online auction that I stumbled across. I kept on eye on that for a few weeks and when the day came I started to bid. Eventually I won it, so that cold WI weekend I headed down to Iowa to pick it up. It was like bringing an injured family dog back into the house to be cared for. I now had an extra 950 ADV to work off of and 1 extra frame. The 950 ADV is an 04' S, so it's tall w/ long suspension, perfect as I wanted to upgrade my 06' S as it was.

    I had a doner bike and parts, the skills and equipment to get this built, I hoped, and a big part, the "OK" from Katie to let me give this a go.:thumb

    Now I needed to let Steve know I was serious and ready to give this a go. Crossed my fingers and hoped he'd let me buy just parts. I wasn't so lucky last year. I think he was a bit apprehensive about my goals and application, but over the year of either my nagging or persistence, his mind changed.

    I placed an order in Nov 2009 and soon after a big box showed up.:D
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    It was like Christmas came early. Looking at all the billet front suspension parts and being able to hold the parts in my hands was a big step.
    "Here it is, take a deep breath, now get to it!"

    A few days later we got hit w/ this:
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    Not much riding being done around here anymore, but lots of time to think of crazy stuff to build. :wink:

    I started to strip down the 04' 950 ADV to get a better look at all the frame fitment "issues" that I'll need to work on.
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    The next few months were spent prepping my 06' 950 for our trip to Mexico, building parts for that bike to keep it going strong. All the while jotting down notes and ideas in a sketch book Katie got me for my Birthday. That was a huge help keeping my ideas straight and I jotted down anything that popped into my mind.
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  14. Flanny

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  16. Pete640

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    Chris - I dont know you - but I think I love you.....
    I didn't know I wanted/needed this until I just read it..

    Pete:1drink
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  17. tserts

    tserts Chaotic Neutral

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    Ok, I want to see how that ends... :ear
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  18. kdhMaico

    kdhMaico Old Junk Rider

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    I was around when CJ opened his Christmas Present :eek1

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    Kind of like getting an Erector set, lots of gears, shafts and chains and then you have to figure out a way to put it all together and make it work!

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  19. Pete640

    Pete640 Long timer

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    Just watched the vid - I can see how it works I think?
    With the take off from the CS would it be more efficient to run a hydraulic pump to power the front wheel instead of mechanical? More revs = more flow, still taking out the gearing effect..... Just putting it our there.
    Pete:1drink
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  20. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    I think Craig's busy playing with his CNC machine so in the meanwhile.... :augie

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