Twin-cylinder equivalent of DR650?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Soldier311, Apr 22, 2015.

  1. Soldier311

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    I wasn't sure which sub-forum to post this under, so I'm trying here.
    What bike(s) with a twin-cylinder engine be similar in size (i.e. height and weight) to a Suzuki DR650? In other words, if you could slip a twin-cylinder engine into a DR650, what bike would it be? A Honda TransAlp comes to mind - but I'm thinking of something in production today.

    Kawasaki Versys? No - it's too "sport-bikey". DL650 V-Strom? No - it's too heavy and unwieldy.
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  2. ukiboy

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    I was going to say 650 Vstrom as it's a great bike but I see what you mean regarding weight issues..
    That being the case IMHO the only real choice left is the Transalp - the last 700cc variant was/is an honest and straightforward mount.
    F800GS perhaps? That's probably too heavy and GS like...
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  3. Vertical C

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  4. EddyB

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    Yep! [​IMG]
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    "Something in production today". CBX500 is lighter than a KLR but, heavier than a DR. Not exactly what you're looking for but, it's the closest thing I can think of. With the Rally Raid package I'll bet it's better than a KLR off road.

    I have the CB 500F & like it a lot but, still kicking myself for not getting the CBX.
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  6. plugeye

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    suzuki gs500 air-cooled twin
    1 or 2 have been done, look in some assy req'd
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  7. Yella DR

    Yella DR Let's go!

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    There's nothing like that on the show room floor but...

    I'd love a twin in my DR650 with 55-60 hp. Only way for me to get that power is with a 790 kit and cam for $1G but it will still be a thumper...they're still in production so that's half the battle won
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    Good luck.

    Personally, I'd start with a guzzi v7 and add suspension / 21 inch front rim. Similar weight, more power, bigger tank, and if you're going to be different you'd might as well be DIFFERENT. There is a picture getting around with a ktm lc4 front end / upper frame merged with a guzzi v 7 ....drool.....

    I've ridden a dr 650 with a gs 500 motor shoe horned in, lots of hassle for not much benefit. Ditto for a versys that's gone VERY dirty ( transalp front end etc). Nice motor, but lots of hassle and he now runs a triumph 800. I loved my old transalp, but they progressively got more heavy / softer. The kle comes close, but it's a LOT heavier and doesn't have much ground clearance.

    Over in mot belismo twins there is a dream bike small v twin thread...enjoy.

    Or svx 550 thread.....
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  9. Soldier311

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    That would be way too vibey, I think. I'm not looking for more power necessarily, just a smoother engine at revs..
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  10. plugeye

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    dr350
    oops, you already had one
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    Oh gosh, just rub it in, won't you!:D I knew I was gonna regret letting that thing go.
    If that DR350 had just had a bit more umph at highway speeds it would have been perfect.
    The DR650 just cruises along at 60 like it it's got it's feet propped up on an armchair, whereas the 350 was winding a bit too much for a 90%+ highway bike.
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    90% highway bike? I would take a goldwing and do the rest 10% of offroad on it.
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    actually, neither are highway machines imo.
    a smooth twin is probably the answer
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  14. plugeye

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    never heard of it, but this is the ticket!
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    Weirdly, my next bike or perhaps only bike will be a dirtified Versys. I enjoy both my DR650 and Bandit immensely but realistically need to cut back. Don't fully dismiss this"sporty bike"until you at least read how easy it is to shape it into the twin you seek.
    Have a look at the 649 build by JDrocks in some assembly required- His frame up builds are very well documented. There are others who build along in that mega thread, but much banter can be skimmed through quickly enough.
    I will bolt together one and perhaps weld a bracket here and there and make a front caliber mount. The only real fab work required.
    Buying a local good used low mile unit, stay with the Versys motor,adding DRZ forks,R1 shock,whatever lighting/fairing I want,my choice of wheel sets of etc. Should cost me less than a new DR650. All the bike I'll ever need for my gravel and slab interests.

    JDrocks has just begun a "faster red" version recently a 4th build and his adventure RRs are quite captivating tales...
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    Not that it is available here in north America, but is the Yamaha 650 Tenere an option? Is it a twin cylinder like the 1200? Or, what about going classic, like the 650 specials from the 80s? Not sure you gain much, but that is often the case with custom builds.
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    What about finding a clean ktm 950? I've heard they have a big dirt bike feel, but I've never ridden one.
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    Super Enduro right off the floor, but it's over kill in many, many ways.

    A Ninja 300 engine would actually be really awesome in a rally type bike. Glass smooth, decent torque and you can cruise at 85 actual mph.

    I've had the klr, the SE and the 300. The 300 would be a great mill in any of them. The SE is friggin huge and much if that is the engine/air box.

    Kawi us blowing a great lil engine in a sub par chassis. It could replace the klr engine today.
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  19. Soldier311

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    I already have a Toyota Corolla. :D
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    Hmmm - I'll look into that one.

    And that's what I'm looking for - a powerful, but smooth dirt-bike feeling bike.
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