Twist of the Wrist for off roading?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by ChildlikeWonder, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. ChildlikeWonder

    ChildlikeWonder Been here awhile

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    I can't afford $1400 for a RawHyde school. I know I learned A LOT about riding on road from Twist of the Wrist 2. Is there something similar for off-road? I've seen some videos on youtube, but they seem to only teach how to go off road at 5mph. I want something a bit more performance oriented.
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  2. anotherguy

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    Many local MX tracks often offer schools cheap. Even if racing is not your game controlling the bike is paramount to off road riding and that's what schools teach. If you've got $600 American Supercamp will teach you a great deal of how to control a motorcycle that's trying to get you off it's back.

    Lacking that ride with someone faster and better than you all the while keeping in mind that they are. Thus keeping speed in check while learning. Many guys will teach you what they know. Just be sure that is what you want to gain.

    And for some reading this is a great book. Geared towards the faster end of off road but it breaks it down into individual techniques and explains what,where and whys of it all. I've taken a couple of Semics' schools and learned a great deal. A bit cheaper than $1400 but a long drive from VA.
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  4. NJ-Brett

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    Do you want to race?

    Most people just buy a little crappy bike and do it.
    Learning that way is fun.
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  5. MJS

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    Since your sig line says R1200GS, I'll make an assumption that is the bike you're talking about. I'd suggest the BMW performance Center in S.C. Cheaper than Rawhyde and closer too. Or Max BMW also has some classes, check out their website. Another thought is the MSF Dirtbike schools if there is one around you.

    Don't worry about going slow, all the schools start that way. The fastest riders are also the best at slow riding. Going slow teaches you balance, body position, clutch and throttle control. Once you have those skills down you can add the momentum part.
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  6. el queso

    el queso toda su base

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    I did the Shane Watts Dirtwise class and we spent most a lot of time doing low speed drills. The skills needed to control your bike at 5 mph apply to riding at higher speeds.
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  7. anotherguy

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    1200 BMW??

    Nevermind.
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  8. lnewqban

    lnewqban Ninjetter

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    Follow this series of vids:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxw8U8bIhY8&list=PL24FCF0D3B73D5066

    <iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Fxw8U8bIhY8?feature=player_detailpage" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" width="640"></iframe>
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  9. ChildlikeWonder

    ChildlikeWonder Been here awhile

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    I mean, this is what I've been doing with no knowledge and the stock Tourance EXP tires (with a rear that is pretty much done)


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  10. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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  11. fastdadio

    fastdadio Still gettin faster

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    Looking at those pictures, it looks like you need a video on how to negotiate terrain, or on selecting the right tool for the job. :lol3:rofl:lol3
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  12. NJ-Brett

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    Maybe add a class on splinting broken bones and first aid also...
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  13. ChildlikeWonder

    ChildlikeWonder Been here awhile

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    LOL, yeah. I'm getting a lot better at realizing when something is going to tank the bike and stopping to look for another way (the pictures are not ordered by date). The last one where it's on its side was pure dehydration though - I didn't quite appreciate how quickly it happens off road.
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  14. WVhillbilly

    WVhillbilly Long timer

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    Think you need some better tires for one :deal
    That is a nice bike, but for mere mortals learning to ride off road something about 200+ pounds lighter would be a big help.
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  15. helotaxi

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    Combining those two a few too often on my Tiger is why I bought a 500EXC. Riding the little bike has made me better on the big one as well.
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  16. jachard

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    Good on you for riding the bike in some fun terrain!! That being said, switch out those tires STAT.

    You might want to look at my thread on prepping these bikes for offroad too:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=912913

    I've done a bunch of work which should make your piggy MUCh better offroad.


    Cheers, James
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  17. ChildlikeWonder

    ChildlikeWonder Been here awhile

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    I've got a Tourance I'm putting on the back now that the rear EXP is worn, but I expect to go to the Karoo 3 once both front and rear are gone. I wish I could have a second set of wheels with TKC 80s on them, but not on my salary....

    Do the pivot pegs make as big a difference as I think they would?
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  18. jachard

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    I really like the Pivot pegs, honestly I can't see riding these bikes offroad without making that upgrade. That being said, some like the pivot pegs, some like the fastaways or other rigid platform pegs vs the Pivot pegs, it's a matter of personal preference. My decision to go with the Pivot pegs was that it helps me reach the brake and shifter pedal whilst wearing MX boots.

    Cheers, James
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  19. anotherguy

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    Sorry I don't see any fun in riding that beast off road.

    I'll stick with my high strung MX bikes. To each his own.
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  20. WVhillbilly

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    Figst :deal













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