Two fingers clutch operation

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by 14TLC, Jul 12, 2012.

  1. 14TLC

    14TLC Adventurer

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2009
    Oddometer:
    49
    Location:
    Out Of Space
    Has someone done it with the OEM clutch lever? Can the lever be adjusted for proper clutch operation in off-road condition when the clutch heats up more than usual? Or you can recommend some aftermarket lever for the purpose.
    #1
  2. Wildman

    Wildman In my castle

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2007
    Oddometer:
    18,692
    Location:
    The Kingdom of Kent
    I use the Wunderlich Vario Levers shortened to the minimum; two and half fingers width.

    [​IMG]
    #2
  3. tkent02

    tkent02 Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Oddometer:
    3,190
    Location:
    Littleton, CO
    Two fingers work fine on mine, sometimes one. Depends on what I'm doing.
    #3
  4. Spineasy

    Spineasy Adventurer

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2011
    Oddometer:
    27
    Location:
    Coralville, IA
    No issues using 2 fingers with mine and they are the OEM levers
    #4
  5. Maxacceleration

    Maxacceleration Off the grid

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2009
    Oddometer:
    2,402
    Location:
    Wa
    Stock lever, two fingers, always.
    #5
  6. grndzr0

    grndzr0 its Ground Zero

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2010
    Oddometer:
    619
    Location:
    Montana
    When riding in rought off road, I use my pinky, ring, and middle finger on the clutch and brake, and then I grab around the grip with my pointer finger for a little extra grip power.

    Seems to work pretty good

    Ryan
    #6
  7. FNMAN

    FNMAN Adventurer

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2009
    Oddometer:
    84
    Location:
    Mid-MO
    I just cut mine down. Works great. Wunderlich levers are awesome but $179 per is too high for me.
    #7
  8. Manventure

    Manventure Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Oddometer:
    136
    Location:
    PacNorthWet
    I have little hands and can't really manage with 2 fingers. Besides Wunderlich who is it that makes good adjustable levers - starts with a P or an S I think.........
    #8
  9. JRWooden

    JRWooden Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2008
    Oddometer:
    4,539
    Location:
    The great state of confusion
    They are very nice, but recently they raised the price by ... IIRC ... 50%... :huh

    There are a bunch of folks selling knock-offs on eBay, but not sure if any of them are any good.............
    #9
  10. 14TLC

    14TLC Adventurer

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2009
    Oddometer:
    49
    Location:
    Out Of Space
    Thanks to everyone.
    I to have small hands so I have difficulties. Grabbing the lever is not much of a problem, but releasing it in a controlled manner in some situations is a bit problematic. Less free play helps but than again I think will be an issue for the clutch when it heats up. I think for me adjustable lever will do the trick, so I'm on a quest for one. Although I prefer Wunderlich, because you can also adjust the length of the lever, but lets see what else is out there.

    Interesting workaround, but I think will be also interesting to "reprogram" myself to do that.
    #10
  11. JGoody

    JGoody Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Oddometer:
    291
    Pazzo?
    #11
  12. deguoren

    deguoren 该出手时就出手

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2011
    Oddometer:
    183
    Location:
    big freezer Germany
    I got used to use two fingers on the OEM levers, but always wanted to go Vario with the Wunderlich levers. The increased price caught me by surprise.

    Problem in Germany is you need something with a certificate, no chance to use the Chinese stuff from ebay.
    So I just came across something I haven't seen before (and road legal in Germany)
    http://www.bs-motoparts.com/Brems-_und_Kupplungshebel/BremshebelKupplungshebel_Set_V-Trec_Vario_57_mit_ABE___BMW_i985_7036.htm?olc=1&soliid=43&LG=en&currency=gbp

    On offer for 150 Euro a pair, at that rate I will certainly give them a try
    #12
  13. JRWooden

    JRWooden Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2008
    Oddometer:
    4,539
    Location:
    The great state of confusion
    I am somewhat embarrassed to say that, Being an American, I am not well versed in this kind of thing ...
    What happens in Germany if you are "caught" with an item installed on your motorcycle that does not have a certificate?

    Thanks!
    #13
  14. deguoren

    deguoren 该出手时就出手

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2011
    Oddometer:
    183
    Location:
    big freezer Germany
    Well in any case you earn 3 points (collected 18 and say goodbye to your license for at least 1 month)
    Plus a fine somewhere between 50 and 100 Euro.
    But if you meet the right man of law and order they might even impound your bike (common case for that would be a noisy exhaust)
    Clutch/Brake levers are safety critical items, so they might impound the bike or forbid you to ride on.

    If you have an approved bolt on, there is the approval number somewhere on the item.
    Here an example for the "KBA number"
    http://www.powermint.de/images/articles/69fdff80ede10efe3b168c12fb46f49c_5.jpg
    #14
  15. tkent02

    tkent02 Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Oddometer:
    3,190
    Location:
    Littleton, CO
    So this man of law and order is going to spot your illegal levers as you motor past at 200 kph or so?:rofl
    #15
  16. LukasM

    LukasM Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2006
    Oddometer:
    5,463
    Location:
    On a RTW ride - currently touring the U.S.

    In my understanding that is not entirely correct.

    The brake lever is part of a system that is relevant for safety, therefore any change has to be approved, either with a generally valid ABE certificate, or by individual testing by the TÜV.

    The clutch lever is not considered relevant for safety, therefore you can change the lever with no problems.


    That being said, I have lots of "illegal" mods and the levers are the last thing I worry about when I am being stopped by cops.
    #16
  17. JRWooden

    JRWooden Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2008
    Oddometer:
    4,539
    Location:
    The great state of confusion
    Thanks ... so if a certificate has been issued there would be a KBA number on the part somewhere?

    Is this the same certificate the same as "homologation" ?
    (or however it is spelled?)






    #17
  18. Hookapelli

    Hookapelli Meat Popsicle

    Joined:
    May 26, 2011
    Oddometer:
    3,537
    Location:
    Augusta, GA
    The nice thing about little hands- it makes your penis look huge!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl
    #18
  19. Manventure

    Manventure Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Oddometer:
    136
    Location:
    PacNorthWet
    Shhhhhhhsh. Don't tell my wife my secret :-)
    #19
  20. HighFive

    HighFive Never Tap-Out

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,974
    Location:
    Okiehoma
    [​IMG]

    Do tell....

    HF :ear
    #20