Two Moto Kiwis Arctic To Antarctic May 2012...

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by Two Moto Kiwis, May 8, 2012.

  1. H96669

    H96669 A proud pragmatist.

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    ^^^ No TVIP required for the whole of the Baja California. Can be acquired later at such as the ferry terminal to the mainland.:clap

    They may not want to stop in Ensenada anyway, I sure didn't last time.:eek1 Too many people milling around with suitcases waiting for something,:wink:,but the dead guy with rigid arm sticking up on the side of the road did it for me.:eek1 Them people milling around all seemed to ignore him anyway.:huh

    In any case,the paperwork can be done online nowadays and if not they will have checkpoints to remind you of that.Been a while but I think the check point was between Tijuana and Ensenada.:1drink

    Now....if I can just find a big Thumper.....maybe not a DR anymore watcha think Andi??? :eek1:eek1:eek1Then stick that in the back of the van, drive out of the snow and go ride down there, I may just catch up with them.That is if the Mexicans let me back in their fine country with a vehicle that is over some old TVIP issues.:evil Looks like a few months off coming this winter......I hope!:thumb
  2. Kennif

    Kennif Been here awhile

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    Andi and Ellen
    With respect, this person's experience does not match ours. We didn't stop in Ensenada and had to pay double the fee at La Paz to get the required docs. My advice is to definitely stop in Ensenada and complete the formalities.
    It was an unnecessarily stressful experience because Aduanain La Paz told us we would have to go all the way back to Ensenada.
    Your call. We wrote about it on our blog.

    Regards,
    Ken and Shirley.
  3. Ducatijim

    Ducatijim Hopeless Poseuer!

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    Andi n Ellen.......I have no exp here but Dick Hubbard who has just recently passed this way also commented in his blog, he nearly was forced to return all the way back to Ensenada from somewhere down Baja ways to get said paperwork. His alternative was costly and stressful!

    Good luck folks.
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    Heya Jim, yeap been following Dick and Ken (above), we are going to head into mainland Mexico so will do everything right at the border, certainly listening to those who have just done it and avoiding any more issues.

    Our first issue is the possibility/probability that we will have to run over our VISA with my bike being in surgery so EVERYTHING we didn't won't.!!!!

    Have written to Homeland Security Immigration so waiting to hear back from them, all geting a bit tight but it will fall into place I am sure.

    Looking, learning, listening all helps from every bit of info and experience.

    We are alive and well so that counts 100% at this point :clap
  5. flying kiwi

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    Hey you two, what an epic trip. I have been following you since day one, but not from here, so thought I'd better jump on ADR 'cos I'm a member, although just a lurker for now. Glad the frog man from BC is keeping an eye on you too.
    R
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    hondav2 Kiwi Fukengruver

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    Just letting u know that Casey has won the last 6 MotoGps at the Island . Larenzo wins Championship. Sounds like yr having fun there , keep the pics and stories coming . Im buzy packing up here to shift in 2 weeks . Cheers Toddy
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    Several years ago I stayed a few days longer as supposed according to my visa : I had no problems at all leaving the US or coming back in again on later opportunities. Just make sure that you get your exit stamp when you leave .
    This was before 9/11 , don't know if something changed since then
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    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Most excellent bro, great talking with you the other day, we found some more cuzzies of BC yesterday and got some photos .... I think he has a secret service of stalkerfrogs watching us :rofl
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    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    JL is # 1, it was a no brainer that Stona would clear out, was gutted to see Pedrosa go down but stoked that JL took the title as my main man for the year, rang Doon afta the race and gave him shit as ya do :D

    Will update another part of the waiting game today, emailed immigration and we got a see through wish washy can't help kinda email ... wow thanks for your support!!! :cry :huh
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    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Yeah we don't have any info similar to your post 9/11 so if anyone does know please chime in.

    We still want to come back to the US to see what we missed from being off the road for 6 weeks out of our 6 months.:huh

    But if we get greif we won't bother and we will spend our money elsewhere, it would be nice if the immigration could cut us some slack for something that is not our fault and unforeseen.
  11. H96669

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    Heya Noob!:evil Inspirational ain't it ???:wink:

    Yeah "time".....you know!:rofl

    If ,and only if, Andi has a little bit of that, I'll take them Cushman/Indian/junk pics.:1drink
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    Count us in!!! :D
  13. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    A bit of mis-information here regards Mexican Visa/TVIP policy.
    Kiwi's! Good you wrote ICE/Homeland. Hopefully they have a record of your request and will cut you slack ... AS THEY SHOULD. You have receipts of work done on bikes, right? Show them, or have them CALL the dealership to verify. I hope they do you right. Good luck!

    Regards Mexican Visas and TVIP (temporary vehicle import permit).
    You've got it right! Do it ALL at the border ... whatever border.
    You both will need a Mexican Tourist Visa ... now up to about $20 each, good for six months. Make sure they make it for six months, some Migracion agents may try to short you on time. Don't allow it. Insurance is NOT required, but its a good idea. On line, purchased before trip is cheapest/best.

    Your Tourist Visa's should be acquired at the border. Any border. The TVIP for the bikes is not needed for any of Baja California ... but the Tourist Visa IS required for you two.

    The locations for getting your TVIP varies depending on which border crossing you decide to cross. Some are 5 to 10 miles from actual border, some, like Tijuana, are right near by.

    Ask at Migracion location of "Banjercito" (Army bank). If you go down Baja
    (the only way to go really) then you can also get your TVIP at the Ferry Terminal in La Paz, Baja.

    DON'T SHOW UP THERE WITHOUT ALREADY HAVING YOUR TOURIST VISA ... if you do ... they will NICK YOU for a fine.
    You've been warned!

    Most border posts keep the Banjercito/Aduana office separate from Migracion office. They issue the TVIP permits. This is true in Tijuana and Nogales, and other crossings as well. ASK someone who speaks English.
    OR ... "Permiso por Moto? Donde'?"
    SAY: "PEAR-ME-SO POOR MOW-TOW" :D

    The permiso for your Moto's (TVIP), is now up to about $35 usd each, and they require a credit card deposit and charge about $400 usd to your card. This is refunded when you exit Mexico. The system works, I've done it 3 times without issue. A $400 Credit showed up on my CC bill within a day of crossing border. When exiting, make sure the agent takes Photos of your VIN number and files it on computer. If you fail to exit properly, you lose your $400.

    This last bit has changed from previous years. Used to be they'd take your CC card info as a deposit but not ever charge your card. Now, they charge it ON THE SPOT. So, if your bill is due, you'll have to pay the bill if your still in Mexico. Make sense?

    In terms of danger ... I would not worry too much. The Army have temporary control of the roads during daytime. I would travel from the border early in the morning, be done riding by 4pm if you can. The area around Culiacan on Mex. 15 is one of the Drug gangs hot spots.

    But overall, Baja is safer than Northern Mexico over on the mainland. Baja is also more mellow, much less traffic, it's more beautiful and more fun than Northern Mainland Mexico in general. I've done it both ways numerous times since 1964 ... and when in Baja, never listen to the old X Pat Gringo drunks who will warn you off going over to the Mainland. Most haven't been there in 20 years. Lots of retired Americans living in Baja ... who (after a few drinks) think they know everything. :D

    I would take the Ferry from La Paz, Baja over to Topolobambo, not to Mazatlan. It's cheaper, only 5 hours vs. 14 hours, comfortable and Topo is near Copper Canyon ... another must see destination.

    I know a great paved road approach route to Copper Canyon from Topolobambo if you need it. A great route!
    Good luck!

    PS:
    You most definitely need to stop and get stamped out of USA ... otherwise you just roll on through the border ... next thing you know you're in Mexico!
    So STOP before the border, park and walk to US Immigration on the US SIDE ... and go in and get stamped out! Then, back to bikes, ride into Mexico. Going South, its a NO STOP border at most crossings. BEST!!
  14. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Great info thanks Adv Grifter

    We are border crossing nOObs so appreciate your input.

    We are planning to enter Mexico at Yuma so hopefully will be user friendly, do you have any info on this station?, we will do everything methodically and logically with the good advice.
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    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    I have not crossed at Yuma, but near there, at Lukeville, a bit to the Southeast from Yuma. IIRC, from Lukeville you must go down the highway to Sonoyta to find Migracion and Aduana/Banjercito offices and get your permits.

    Not sure what the story is at Yuma or where you cross specifically. Check your maps and guidebooks to confirm. This crossing is no big deal at all. The Mexicans are welcoming and friendly. A smile and a "?como estas?" goes a long way to making it easy.

    The more Spanish you can learn, the better. Once beyond the border region not much English spoken. Now your adventure really begins. Hope you can handle it. :freaky
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    Yeah we are good to go, plan is to stop in Guate for a month and get spanish sorted to a better level, we have the basics including a good :D so will wing it from there.

    We have traveled 3rd world before so we both feel pretty comfy, it will work out as it always does.
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    Best (and safest) place to cross the border is Lukeville, south of Gila Bend, which is on I-8 about halfway between I-10 and Yuma. There is currently an ongoing war between the Mexican drug dealers and the U.S. Border Patrol. Several people have been shot recently. Mexico in general is not as safe as it used to be, but the border is really bad. If you cross at Lukeville, you can blend in with the tourists going to Puerto Penasco.
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    Yes H, I am starting to get my head around a North America ride. All this awesome stuff from the TMK's is getting the juices flowing for a roadie. Is that GS of yours still available? Buddy? Mate? :wink:
    I am thinking about summer 2014...
  20. H96669

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    Yippee...will be retired by then, lots of time....!:rofl

    The GS is in little pieces, nothing good there in that engine. Not worth fixing unless you send me a few thousands of them good NZ dollars.About 3-4,000 worth in CA $$$.:wink:Baah....bring me some Ice Cream or Lumps instead.:clap I should Fleabay the parts and buy a big thumper. Following Andi and the DRs not too sure anymore about Suzukis.:eek1

    I think me or Ken could find you something acceptable....and reliable! Not sure about insuring in BC/Canada as a non-citizen, was going to look into that eventually.....need more time!:rofl

    See you later on the Pin thread, you know I had to follow your instructions with pics, sort of....!:wink:

    Andi....need more pics before some of us head out to work in the recent earthquake zone.:eek1 No pressure, got a few days I think before I loose my good connection, then I'll take time to fill up the noob with "text",been a long time, will/should have more time.....!:rofl