Two Moto Kiwis Arctic To Antarctic May 2012...

Discussion in 'Epic Rides' started by Two Moto Kiwis, May 8, 2012.

  1. korukiwi

    korukiwi Adventurer

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    Andi and Ellen, we hope you have vastly improved fortunes in 2013.
    As kiwis we find it hard to believe the latest let down you are dealing with. I want to come over and give you a big hug.
    Hopefully you are getting loads of help and support from the good people around you.

    The fireworks in Queenstown exploded with exuberant joy. I hope that your New Year does too.
    Kia kaha
    Diana
  2. preppypyro

    preppypyro Been here awhile

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    Im sorry to hear of your shity luck in buying the bike. Looked like such a nice bike from the add.
  3. bigborefan

    bigborefan Making new friends

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    Good luck Kiwis.

    I can't believe the guy shipped you a dirty bike. You might, in some strange universe, and even that's a stretch, overlook the water pump, but shipping a dirty bike is just WRONG.

    The guy needs a beat down just on principal. I looked at that add several times, and like you, I assumed it was a sweet ride. If I recall he said he had some kind of "life event" that forced a sale? Who knows the real story?

    When I sell a bike, I prep it like I am going on a long trip myself. Full service. Then I detail it to the max. I always divulge any issues I have had and and any existing if there are any.
  4. TOTim

    TOTim Been here awhile

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    Happy New Year 2 Kiwi's
    I hope all this bad karma can be left behind in 2012.
    Time to ride into 2013.
  5. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Happy New Year to you too mate, and to the people supporting us, Doug you are a good man, really appreciate it, so much support from the ADV community.

    Have to admit to feeling a little less than party enthusiastic today ... few more drinks may raside enthusiasm :clap
  6. hondav2

    hondav2 Kiwi Fukengruver

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    Im just trying to copy paste a pic off my smugmug on to here in the usual way wont go , any 1 else having problems
  7. cold comfort

    cold comfort Been here awhile

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    Hi Guys,
    All the best for a smooth New Year! Great to see the community blacklisting that mongrel. Caveat emptor eh? Been caught myself being to trusting. Bit sad really. Anyway, onward and upward. Look forward to the next exciting installment. Preparing myself for the Dusty by languishing by a pool in Noosa. Gonna suffer later for sure!
  8. GB

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    The bike misrepresentation dogpile, threats of bodily harm, immigration / visa crap have been punted. A few posts were left that expressed most inmates' sentiments in regards to the bike situation. If you have a need to dogpile, do it in the seller's Flea market thread, until FM mods close and punt it. (please do not post threats of bodily harm against anyone, as this will get you banned.)

    There's an implied trust among the ADV community that when you sell or buy something here, full disclosure is expected. I purchased a bike from an inmate in the Flea market, sight unseen and it arrived in better condition than was pictured! This is the norm for ADV transactions.

    Now back to Andi and Ellen's great adventure :thumb
  9. FotoTEX

    FotoTEX Long timer

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    A large thank you to GBADV for all you do to make this site so great. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
  10. H96669

    H96669 A proud pragmatist.

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    Eh!...I ended up in the basement again. And so did Richard.....:rofl

    Oh well now I know that we share the same tastes in Ice Cream.:clap

    Special batch....what does he put in there, Grog ?????:wink:

    Happy belated New Year to all the Kiwis.:1drink
  11. Blakebird

    Blakebird r-u-n-n-o-f-t

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    :nod

    Oddly enough, I found this RR because I saw three stickied Flea Market threads the other day, and wondered what that was about....

    I ended up reading this entire RR in one sitting, and enjoyed it a ton aside from the biffs and bad luck with the DR first, and buying the SE later.
    Andi and Ellen covered a lot of the same ground I have over the years - it's always fun to share those trips thru someone else's eyes.

    It's a big country, full of lots of people of all different types... so excuse the handful of us who aren't suited well to our jobs (security guy in Sac) - and especially those who take unfair advantage of trusting buyers.

    Best of luck getting the SE sorted and yourselves back on the road, and putting this episode behind you.
  12. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Thanks to the Mod for vacuuming Lawnman out, unwanted in our RR, 6 post and throwing rocks :hmmmmm.

    To the guys supporting us, really appreciated but don't stoop to the lower level of of KTM950SE, he will get his justice and I am still hopeful he will man up and make good.

    Thus far we are out $1100.00 US for repairs and if the cam tensioners and oil jets need sorting out that will grow as well for us the penalty of time.

    Nearly 10% of our purchase price and having sold most of the farkles to cover the bills makes me angry as now we have paid dearly for a almost std bike. :huh

    Anyway, this helped last night, hope you guys had a happy new year.

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  13. Mercenary

    Mercenary Mindless Savage

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    Regardless of who did what and who said what....I wish you nothing but good fortune and good luck going forward. And hey, you're going to have a heck of a story to tell afterwards eh?
  14. AK Smitty

    AK Smitty Self life coach

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    Wow just caught up on your RR. A total douche move from the 990 guy and lets hope karma comes back around.

    Heres to the new year and new beginnings. Hope to see a post from the road soon.
  15. MotoLara

    MotoLara ADV rider wannabe

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    HAPPY NEW YEAR ELLEN & ANDI! :ricky

    Make 2013 your best year yet! :clap:clap

    Cheers
  16. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Thanks mate, woudln't mind being able to tell lesser stories or good times stories. :clap

    Won't be far off mate, hopefully hitting the road Saturday, still got some stuff to get sorted on Maya and once she geta clean(ish) bill of health we are on it.

    Heya Alberto and Naomi

    HAPPY NEW YEAR to you too :freaky .... the forecast is lookin good!!
  17. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    I would not normally post this preferring to keep dirty laundry away from the ADV Rider table however this has now gone too far with large consequences both cost and time wise for us.

    But on that note, please don’t get fired up and bring whirlwind replies as the mods will throw it anyway, all I want to do is record exactly what has happened in which has become a big and costly event in our life and on our trip, it is NOT to be turned into a discussion post.

    As most of the you know we bought KTM950SE (Alfreds) 950 Super Enduro R, he had quite the ad showing off to quote “what would you expect to ask for such a fine machine”

    This is what we paid for

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    So we bought the bike based on the shiny ad, pumped up with the right gear, new luggage etc, what could possibly go wrong.

    Funny enough we had become “the guys who bought that bike”, for a while there I was proud thinking we had done the right thing.

    Before it was sent Alfred said sorry I could not clean the bike as it is very cold up there and I said no worries (looking at my ad pictures thinking it looked great), I was not worried initially then he sent the photos through ... WTF

    This is how it was sent.

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    We finally received the bike on 22 Dec, upon rolling it out of the truck I started her with a huge grin despite the clumps of mud and shit all over her as I was happy to finally get her.... well she rattled very badly and continued to rattle sounding like the cam chain or something was ready to bail....grin gone :cry

    I rang Alfred right there and then after switching her off, he said that is the nature of the beast and it did this once every twenty starts or so.

    Having owned a 990 SMR I knew this was not normal but what could I do.

    Still concerned I rang Dillon at Zen Motorcycle straight away, we took it round there and it had quietened down by then.

    So we went home, next morning started her up and she rattled badly again so I shut her off.

    We dropped the oil out into a bowl .... FARK

    Spencer (KTMSER) came around and we proceeded to remove the screens as well... we could not believe our eyes.

    Dry Sump Tank Screen full

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    Base Sump Screen Full

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    Oil Filter creased from coolant.

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    Engine oil black and full of contaminants

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    Looking at this brings the milage into dispute ... did it have a new speedo??, something was NOT right.

    In the sale photos the bike has pretty good rubber, when delivered the bike tires had obviously been thrashed since the ad was placed being chunked up and torn, i.e. thrashed.

    In the ad was mention of the great CJ designs powdercoated tank which was one of the big drawcards, no mention of it leaking gas out of a crack at the front, this had obviously been there a while as the fuel stain was down the subframe and swingarm, would he have known about it ... hell yes it is that obvious, CJ designs are going to take care of the repair and get the tank back to us so we can continue, thank you CJ Designs.

    So with new oil and filters in the engine and a short ride around the block to be had I went to start her ur - ur - click - click - click the battery was dead. No problem we will just charge it.

    We then established the battery was all but spent and is not holding charge and in less than 10 seconds with the key on the battery voltage drops down below 11.2 and falling .... argh fook it needs a new battery too!!!

    As it turns out the waterpump had failed and was causing the filter issues despite having a new waterpump in it??.

    So off to Zen Motorcycle to fit up a new waterpump, flush the sump, new filter again and new oil again.

    What we found was crap everywhere in the motor and sealant applied with a fire hose.

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    So it took quite a bit of time to get this sorted

    Finally getting the bike back home we could carry on and actually spend more time setting up ready to resume our RTW trip.

    So with everything needed to spend on the bike we have been selling farkles to cover the bills just to bring her up to standard so now we have a super expensive non farkled bike, so far it has cost us $1100.00 so nearly 10% of the cost of the bike and we may not be finished yet, we will know by the end of the week if the cam tensioners need replacing, if they do that will have big consequences for our trip and we will be forced to reassess again and that is very frustrating to say the least.

    I have emailed and PMed Alfred, I have rung four times and left two messages and he has gone to ground.

    In essence we have been ripped blind for something that was shiny and awesome which is actually a milage disputed, bike covered in shit and clearly hammered since advertised and in need of serious work, I am not one to whine but this guy has sent me to the edge and we just don’t need this crap or expense.

    When we left home we had a “just in case” pot set aside, we blew that on the bike accepting our events that led to this and understanding that we were buying a pristine SE, now the farkles we have paid for are being traded off for repairs and this is simply a ball breaker to us.

    We are slowly working to fix everything at a cost of time and money, something you would not have expected.

    Think I am whining ... just remember how many of you fello ADVers looked at this very bike and wanted it and if you got it YOU would have the shit and expense we have been dealt.

    I almost apologize for bringing this post to life but other potential purchasers on his other bikes up for sale you may want to reconsider and I believe if a fello ADver willingly and knowingly is prepared to rip you then others need to know in advance, forewarned is forearmed.

    The question is did he know about the rattle etc, well yes as he said in my first phone call on the 22nd December on the first start “that is the nature of the beast” and it does this once every twenty starts or so ... BS, once every cold start!!! with an in your ear death rattle.

    To that end this brings my post to a conclusion and the question of how long is too long from no communication from him whatsoever before you bring it to the table given the first communication was on 22 December??

    It is now January 1st 2013, 10 days? you decide, we believe he knowingly sold us a dud and screwed her hard post the ad photos as this is very obvious.

    Alfred, WHEN you read this I give you the opportunity to step up and make good, on our phone call on December the 22nd when I first rang you you said to me if I had any issues or needed to know something best to send and email as you would get them ..... that was our last chat, I have sent your polite emails, polite PMs and polite phone calls, I have copies of them all and happy to post them.

    On a positive note Happy New Year to all our readers, hope you had a great time with family and friends.

    ...and please NO replies to this post, it is here as a record of events, thank you to all who have supported us, it is acknowledged.
  18. ztaj

    ztaj jatz

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    Firstly..... Happy New Year to the pair of you :freaky the new year's gotta be better than the last one aye ?
    I caught up with Paul briefly in town and he gave me a short rundown on your continuing saga :eek1 wow !! Not a lot I can do from here but wish you luck in getting things sorted and safe travels.
    How is Ellen healing ? Also....my GS is going reeeealy well, no problems at all, none, not even a little one :D
    Cheers
    J....
  19. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    Heya James (and Co)

    Happy new year mate(s), year hopefully 2013 might turn up better results.

    Was lookin at a 800 GS prior Maya ... wished we had now :cry

    H o p e f u l l y it won't be too long (maybe Saturday) we will be back on the road again and as we were but on one scoota, as long as Maya's health checks out it will be game on .... really looking forward to hitting the road again mate. :clap

    Bets to all the Kiwibiker boyz too!!:freaky
  20. Mercenary

    Mercenary Mindless Savage

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    Not trying to split hairs here but.....

    When I was looking for a bike, I looked long and hard for the one I wanted and I let many potential bikes pass by simply because they didn't fit the bill. Once I found the DR that I wanted I drove over 950 kilometers one way just to go have a look at it! I know some folks just don't have that kind of time but I was determined not to get ripped off.

    So my best advice for everyone is to do just that. Sure it might be a thousand miles away...but if its the one you want....don't buy sight unseen. Go take a look and judge for yourself. Or find a trusted friend who is closer to it, if possible, and have them take a gander for you.

    Bad luck. Hope things get better for the both of you.:freaky