Two-Up Camping

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by AdventurePoser, Jan 23, 2002.

  1. AdventurePoser

    AdventurePoser Long timer

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    I do almost all of my riding two up with the Chue-Shue, aka The Flame. All of our long trips are motel intensive, but we'd like to try camping off the RT.

    I've camped extensively off my GS, and off my bicycle as well, but never two up. Can you all offer some advice for happier two up motocamping?

    It seems to me that this will be a labor of love in some ways, as carrying enough gear for two people looks difficult. I have a tent, compact sleeping bag and thermarest. Also own the Helen2Wheels bags for tent and sleeping bags...

    Any and all tips about gear and techniques will be greatly appreciated!

    Many thanks, and hope to see you on the road this summer!

    Steve
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  2. GSAnderson

    GSAnderson Wandering Swede

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    I stuff the sleeping bags, thermarests etc into two waterproof bags and bungee them to the top of the saddle bags. The tent poles get bungeed crossways to the vertical posts of the luggage rack. The tent, clothes, cookware, food all fit in the saddlebag, topcase or tankbag. The more I camp, the less stuff I bring.

    I went to Michigans U.P. last summer and tented next to a family which brought a trailer with a dirtbike and a 4wheeler, a pop-up camper, a 30 ft camping trailer and three trucks to pull it all. Different strokes, I guess.
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  3. AdventurePoser

    AdventurePoser Long timer

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    I have done extensive fully loaded bicycle touring, so the specialized gear is not a problem. I own pretty much everything we need to camp two up except a sleeping bag and thermarest for Chue-Shue.

    The other main point is that we do not plan on cooking in camp, which means a big pile of stuff can be left behind. What about camp chairs and other creature comforts. What works best for two up camping?

    Thanks,
    Steve
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  4. jocflier

    jocflier Dammit, that hurt...

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    Steve..

    Kermit's Touring Chair...Not cheep about $100.00...Best camping chair out there..Sold through Kermit's camping products

    6242 hwy 100 W
    Pleasantvillle, Tenn. 37147
    (931) 729-9836

    Sorry, they do not have a web site, but i am sure someone here can come up with a picture of one and post it..

    Rick
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  5. AdventurePoser

    AdventurePoser Long timer

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    Hmmm...you are right. At $100 they are not cheap. Perhaps i can save by having The Flame just sit on my lap!

    Steve
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  6. Marc

    Marc Just sayin...

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    note: Information lifted from: http://home.sprintmail.com/~damian/acc.htm

    Contact Information:

    Kermit Easterling
    6242 Highway 100 West
    Pleasantville, TN 37147
    Home: 931.729.9836
    E-Mail: mctchair@centerville.net

    <img src="http://home.sprintmail.com/~damian/images/kkc.jpg" hspace=8 vspace=8 align="right">Whenever you hear folks talking about camping gear you hear them talk about this chair. Handcrafted in the USA, this chair disassembles and packs away neatly in it's own carrying case.

    Kermit's Kamping Chair:

    Set it up once and you'll see how fast (under a minute, with no tools) and simple it is. Beautiful oak and aluminum structural elements. Forest green Cordura fabric. Wt. 5 lbs. Packs into a 4" x 6" x 23" Cordura bag. No small parts to lose. Attractive enough for your home, much less the trail.

    Kermit recommends:

    Ray Danley
    4683 Birch Ridge Trail
    Stone Mountain, GA 30083
    Home: 770.593.1852
    For repairs of the chair (though rarely needed) and custom embroidery of the cloth back.

    And this:
    As I've told The BOY, it's tenteen, tenty one, twleveteen... and so on.

    HTH
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  7. fish

    fish Banned

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    I've got a kermit too...make sure you get the leg extensions.
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  8. Squirrel

    Squirrel Squirrely Adventurer

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    We did it....Lisa and I on the RT last summer doing the N. Calif. camping thing. She got the right saddlebag, I got the left saddlebag. Tent and thermarests went into the topcase. Sleeping bags strapped to top of saddlebags via "bungee buddies". Two folding campchairs strapped to the Sargent passenger backrest. We didn't pack cooking utensils (I like going out for road food), but we did pack a small stove and coffee cone (I love strong fresh grounded coffee).

    Suggestion: NO MATTER how long you plan to be gone, pack for a two day trip.....you'll be fine.
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  9. XtreemLEE

    XtreemLEE insignificant being...

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    Sorry boys but this is the easiest way to load camping suppies. P.S. am I the only one who has the right hand exhaust model?

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  10. fish

    fish Banned

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    That must be the special british edition, since I see it also has the shifter on the right. Hmmm, but the sidestand on the right too? I'm very confused this morning.:confused:
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  11. Seymour

    Seymour Cross country runner

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    On last year trip to Oregon and back home ,22 days trip two-up we stay 13 nights in Motels ,7 nights camping,first and last night at home.
    We did laundry 3 times,in Paonia,Co. Redmond,Or.and I think West Yelowstone.We only care clean cloth for 5 days.

    I have extra-large lids on bike as on Jeff side; http://home.att.net/~jeff.dean/biglid.htm

    right saddlebag is my darling wife,so all her staff plus small termarest mattress have to squeeze there,no excuse.

    left side is for my staff plus mattress ,plus two bottle of liquor from duty free ,plus air compresor
    http://www.ibmwr.org/prodreview/airman.html

    Top case is for tent like Bighorn from Eureka http://www.eurekatentscanada.com/English/Home.htm
    than can fit easy in top case.plus slippingbag,just one,because,...

    Tankbag I have extra gloves,maps,camera,water,moa anonimous book etc... in left no radio storige I keep rain suits.

    I already book my vacation for trip in August to
    http://www.bmwra.org/rally_2002.htm
    and we going two-up of course

    Titan
    MOA #56216
    See you in Trenton
    http://www.bmwmoa.org/rally02/index.htm
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  12. AdventurePoser

    AdventurePoser Long timer

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    That trailer seems like the easiest way to go, but for now I'll be exploring some of the other options you all have mentioned.

    Sounds like everythingwill fit, as long as I stay away from packing cooking stuff as well...

    Cheers,
    Steve
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  13. nwgs

    nwgs solarfied

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    I've got to try those.


    :kumbaya
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  14. PassTheGravy

    PassTheGravy Been here awhile

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    Here's how I do it on the GS. First, one of these comes in handy:

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    I've got an extra large Helen Two Wheels bag into which go two thermarests, pillows, sleeping bags, a Jetboil, coffee, cups and various other supplies. A medium H2W bag holds my tent, and a separate bag holds another tent. (My daughter-in-law goes camping with me. There would be something creepy about sharing a tent. Plus, what if I need to rip off a big fart in the middle of the night? :D ) It all gets strapped on with the Helen Two Wheels straps.

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    She gets the right side bag. I get the left. The tools, air pump, etc. go in the tank panniers. Tank bag holds misc. stuff. No Kermit chairs, but I could strap one to the top of each side bag if I needed to. We usually have enough room to stop near our destination and pick up a sixpack of adult beverages to stuff in various nooks and crannies.
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  15. hass

    hass Fairings are for sissies!

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    Wife gets one pannier, I get the other. Topbox is full of cooking gear and biking gear. In the black rubber sausage bag strapped to the topbox is the tent, two sleeping bags plus two sleeping pads.

    Must haves: Gas powered soldering iron, tyre repair kit, wire, electrical cable and tape, first aid kit.
    Recomended: 12V charger for phone, plastic bags, ziplock bags, plastic tubs for matches/teabags/etc.

    Good luck!

    You can find some pictures of our first ride around Europe here.

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  16. Joeles Frijoles

    Joeles Frijoles Adios Pantalones

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    My girlfriend and I find ourselves doing quite a bit of two-camping on the Dakar these days. I used to evenly divvy up the smaller group items (e.g. stove, fuel, pans, extra water) and then give her a pannier to fill, but the two sides never came out even. These days I'm finding more and more group gear in my pannier. When running two-up, we usually throw the tent on top of one pannier, the thermarests on top of the other, and the two sleeping bags in the top case.

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    However you end up sorting it out, two-camping on the bike is one of my favorite weekend pursuits...even if I get nothing but attitude from my girlfriend...:D

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  17. RockyRaccoon

    RockyRaccoon Found:Gideon's Bible

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    It can be done. :D

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  18. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    Been there, done that. Jesses make it easy :D

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  19. shrineclown

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    I bring the Crazy Creeks and just roll them in the 3/4 thermarest's, I have the wide TR's, nest together fine. Not that you should read anything into that. :lol3 Not as comfortable as the kermits by any means, and you are closer to all the bugs (just snacks to go with the JD). But if you are looking to save a little, it gives back support for about $25 or less if you get like an EMS brand or similar. They actually have one that I have seen pictures of that integrates your ground pad with the seat, sorry, not sure who makes that one.
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  20. TurboCharger

    TurboCharger Been here awhile

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    On our trip from Sydney to Oslo (25 countries, 40,000kms) out of 300 days we camped around 80 days. So I guess that you could say that we are seasoned two-up campers.

    In our experience space is a premium and as such anything that you pack on the bike should serve more than one purpose otherwise it is a waste of space. Basically there is not much difference between the gear you need for a 2 week trip or a 2 year trip. By the end of 1 or two weeks you should be doing some washing, if not then you have way too many clothes or you really smell! :rofl

    Camping by motorcycle doesn't have to be hard work either, it should be fun otherwise you're not doing it right. Prioritise your work and work as a team. It is far better to share tasks so you can enjoy the end-of-day beer sooner.

    As far as chairs and seating goes, we use our H&B alu panniers as seats - Multipurpose. We use the topbox as a table - multipurpose again.

    We always have 5-6m length of rope, very handy for hanging out washing and a multitude of other things.

    We don't carry a pillow but instead our clothes bag with a t-shirt wrapped around it is quite comfy for sleeping.

    It is important to sleep well, even when camping so we have equivalent to thermarest (cheap french brand Quencha) and warm sleeping bags.

    When considering a tent, it is helpful to have a reasonably good tent with vestibule. This means you can keep your helmets and tankbag etc under cover without them being inside your sleeping area.

    In essence, think laterally about what you need vs what you have. If you have each your own pannier then there is certainly going to be wasted space, when each square centimetre counts it can't be afforded on a bike 2up. :1drink

    Enjoy the experience.
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