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Discussion in 'Vendors' started by charlie264, Aug 16, 2011.
I'm in Dorset too mate if you wanna experiment on an Adventure. I've got a G-iT skid plate if that makes any difference?!
Im interested in one for my SE if its no problem with an aftermarket skid plate....
So the front of your plate is not bolted onto anything?
The face of the countersunk screws press against the original mounting stubs when the bike is on the sidestand?
Is this why the US competitor to Blackdog says you should not mount the Blackdog equipped bike by stepping on the sidestand?
If you drop the bike on the floor, wont the cases will crack just as if there was no relocator bracket fitted as the flat plate will deflect easily in that direction?
First question yes, they don't press but sit flush.
I guess why BD says you shouldn't mount the bike using the side stand is the same for all bikes; you just don't because its just too much force on a small area. Its just not one part but the sum of.
If you drop the bike its not necessarily the side stand area that's going to take the brunt, this plate is made from a substantial piece of 6mm steel, even if it did put force on the case mount points its going to be a compression force, and not a twisting force. On all the examples I've seen of damaged cases, I doubt any were caused by lateral compression.
I did a quick test tonight by pulling the bikes weight off the rear wheel onto the side stand and trying to feel any movement with my fingers between the cases mount points and the plate. Nothing, its absolutely rock solid. Then again it is 6mm steel, I was thinking of going to 8mm but you need some sort of reality check, you can get 6mm thick rsj's (I beam), I want it to be strong but not so strong it could damage the frame in the event of an off.
A flat plate of given weight per m will flex way more than an RSJ of the same weight/m.
Flat plate flexes and bends very easily, compare a diving board vs a canoe, both similar weight/m and similar materials.......
if you can get a feeler gauge between the plate and original mount when the bike is on the mainstand, I bet you cant get the same thickness of gauge in there when the bike is on the sidestand.
Of course it will, try and flex a 6 inch piece scaffold board; force need is far greater than a 6 foot long board. I wasn't comparing the strength of an I beam but the material, for me its the best solution, do you agree its stronger than ally, carbon fibre is incredible strong in complex shapes but not so much in flat sheets, titanium just too expensive. Ill try the gauges for you.
I made one like this. Was thinking of making more but saw that others already had.
Thing is the math says it's close. Reality testing shows it's just fine. Stop worring and go for it. Worst case is it bends a bit at a time when the cases would have broken. Your choice.
Oh edit I see there is another fastener low. I didn't do this- this is a bit better than mine - so there you go.
Pay up. There is no flex between off and on the side stand, even with me pulling one handed extra weight onto the side stand.
Hi I would be interested in one of your brackets if it would it fit a 950Adventure 2003 with G-IT sump guard.
the BD one will not fit as the 03 frame is different
I'm interested in a bracket to fit my 990 ADV, when you have them ready, pm me or something
Thats good news. Get one tried on an Adventure :)
Keep me in the loop for Adventure.
If it will fit with the BDCW skid plate (which I'm sure it will) I'll have one.
Glad to see someone in the UK can finally supply this vital piece of kit.
That lower bolt is where the sump guard bolt goes on the Adv, thats why the Blackdog has no mount there...
so when will you have the Adv version ready please?
You could do that, an added bad design is the alignment. I can only assume KTM didnt use shouldered bolts to gain more tolerance. The third bolt goes through the frame, case and frame so kind of sandwiching the fragile case material. Id rather bend the side stand plate or break the stand itself rather than cause any damage to the case. Thats a major rebuild or weld job.
I should find out this week.
I could use one..
I would be interested for my SE as well, so long as I get it before my trip...
Just to keep everyone in the loop, the SE plate is being machined up now. Then off to the miller to be countersunk and painted, so a total of three companies just to make this side stand relocater. There was a minimum order so that will give only a few plates to start with, hopefully should start producing the Adv plates next week.