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Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by jglow, Aug 5, 2013.
What an awesome ride.
Excellent! Thanks for the A+ report.
Jordan nice work man, your group ride was awesome and the time you took to create your own custom loop was well rewarded with great trails, roads and fabulous views. I'm now inspired to get a DS bike and follow your tracks.
BTW did any of you have your WR's suspension tuned or are you running stock.
Jordan and I both have revalve front and rear. Mine by go-race, his by another shop. They work much better but still no match to a stock ktm
Hey, Thanks for reading the Report... So, yes, as Richard mentioned, my suspension had been re-done by WER (Works Enduro Rider). It made a tremendious improvement to the bike. It will never be as good as a true dirt bike, but a true dirt bike can't do everything the WR can do either - the great compromise .
I feel like I've certainly been pushing the limit of the WR on recent trips, but the bike will still DO it -- just maybe not as quick or clean as others .
What DS bike are you looking at getting - a lot of options out there .
"What DS bike are you looking at getting - a lot of options out there ."
Jordan great question, if you were to get another DS which bike would you recommend? I have a YZ 250 2 stroke that is set up for off road the suspension is valved super plush for rock gardens and roots/tree hopping. I lived in CO. for 10 yrs and rode mostly single track from Aspen to Telluride. Currently in AZ and need to link the trails with a DS. So the YZ is more of a trailer to the trail head then ride. The KTM 350 looks like a great bike for my style of riding but after reading so many RR here on ADV I wanted some feed back from guys like you that have ridden the WR 250 for a few seasons.
I used to ride with a bunch of older pro's A and AA riders who had stables of bikes but they always chose to ride the KTM 200 cause after riding from sunrise to sunset they were more manageable.
Our single track trails would only allow you to ride in 2nd and 3rd gear for 90% of the day. It was only on the forest service roads where we could catch them and let them eat our dust otherwise we were chasing them all day long. I was hoping with some mods to the WR the compromise would still leave me satisfied. Now that I'm a few years older and not looking to haul ass but just looking for some fun spirited off-road riding and camping.
Thanks for taking the time to answer a few of my questions, summer is almost over here in AZ and our second riding season is just around the corner. Time for me to get a new bike for DS camping.
Well... I have no definitive answer for you, because there probably isn't one - But here's my input.
It all depends on the amount of actual technical trail you want to ride, and speed at which you want to ride, and amount of gear you plan to haul. We basically use a lightweight/ultra lightweight backpacking camping gear setup, and can haul all of our camping gear in a Giant Loop Coyote Bag. Any DS bike you would consider can carry that bag, but if you want to carry more, then that would certainly affect your bike decision. Distance you will travel per trip and maintenance schedule are another factor. The KTM 350/500 EXC will require more maintenance at shorter intervals than say the WR250r/CRF250L/KLX250s/DRZ400s etc...
I can go on, and on, but really it would just be my opinion, and it really just boils down to what you like and what you want. If I was riding Forest Roads, some OHV trails, and camping off the bikes then I would lean towards a WR250r, because I would most likely be having higher mileage days through fairly easy riding. If I was doing DS riding with some forest roads, camping off the bikes, but a heavy emphasis on technical trails, and single track I would say to look towards the KTM 350/500EXC bikes, because I would be having much lower mileage days with much more difficult riding, where the benefits of a bike designed to handle such terrain would far outweigh their shortcomings on the road or maintenance.
I possibly just confused you more ...
Well documented ride Jordan! Enjoyed your write up
Question for you guys...I see Rotopax on the bikes did you guys need the extra fuel on this trip or did the larger tanks get you through?
No the rotopax were on there "just in case". We never went more than 150 miles so the 3.1 ims tank was enough.
Fantastic RR. A real "page turner". I enjoyed it immensely, beautiful pictures. Thank you for taking the time to document your trip.
I loved reading your trip report (other than the broken foot). What a great trip! It brought back great memories since I have ridden some sections of your route - but never with a fully loaded bike.
Back in 2011 I took my son and daughter on the Willow Creek single track near Strawberry Reservoir. They absolutely hated that trail! The steep side hills were really intimidating.
Here is our video:
<iframe src="//player.vimeo.com/video/29206120" webkitallowfullscreen="" mozallowfullscreen="" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="281" width="500"></iframe> Tie Fork to Willow Creek - Sept 2011 from Dee Gardiner on Vimeo.
And here is my trip report:
Last year (2014) the forest service and a lot of dirt bike volunteers did a lot of trail repair on these trails. They are much better now.
<iframe src="//player.vimeo.com/video/102961132" webkitallowfullscreen="" mozallowfullscreen="" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="281" width="500"></iframe> Willow Creek Single Track - July 2014 from Dee Gardiner on Vimeo.
I think that first picture is about where my bike went off the trail, and tumbled down into the creek/marsh . It was definitely an awesome trail though, especially in hindsight .
Thanks for sharing your pics and vids...
Most days my son rides better than me - or at least crashes less often. But on that day he took two tumbles down the hill. On the first he lost his balance and fell head first down the talus slope. He slid about 20', almost into the creek. Luckily his bike snagged on a small bush, but it was upside down. Luckily a solo rider came along and helped us pick the bike up and get it back on the trail.
Then on the bail out up Racetrack Hollow he lost his balance again and fell off a 3' ledge head first into the creek. In the video you can see him washing the mud off his gloves. He wanted to get out of there fast.
What was the average weather temperature you guys dealt with? I'm heading through there around the same time this year. Also, do you have a packing list?
I would love to watch those videos but can't make them play for more than a couple of seconds.
If you are referring to my videos, try clicking on the Vimeo link on the embedded video and watch them on the Vimeo website. They are higher quality there.
If you are referring to jglows videos, I had the same problem on a computer with a slow Internet connection, but it worked fine for me at home.
That was a fantastic RR.
I am planning and researching a route to do a 4 day trip through Utah. I live in SLC and will hopefully be meeting with another rider near Vernal.
The outline looks something like this and will, like your trip, be a mix of UTBDR, and scouting local trail maps.
If you had to condense your 7 day trip to a 4 day, what places would you say are an absolute must in terms of good riding. I'd like to spend most of the ride in the Canyonlands area, and then perhaps head out as far west as Capitol reef.
Can one traverse through Canyonlands via trails from Moab down sort of south west? of is there no connecting route?
I'll be looking into your GPS route so I can better understand exactly where you rode through.
I'm looking at doing this on a beat up 1984 XL600 I got on craiglist for 800$, and my buddy would be on a KLX250.
You can ride through a portion of the Needles District of Canyonlands going SW out of Moab, but you now need to get a permit to ride in the park. Same is true for the White Rim Trail in the Island In The Sky District. Here is a ride report started by RideFreak that includes the Needles section. You have to tackle Elephant Hill and Bobby's Hole - not for the faint of heart.
Or you can bypass Canyonlands and go through Beef Basin, up in the Abajo Mtns, then around towards Hite.
If you have the fuel range, you can then cut through the Maze District of Canyonlands and ride up the Flint Trail.