Ultra gravel-traveller. RC8´ed Adv-S...

Im true adventure....no seat

You are a sick, sick person....tell us again, what engine do you have in this?

Engine : RC8R 2011
Transmission: 1190 Adv
Wiring : RC8 2009 incl. ECU


Just had a small jaunt today. 10km of curvy roads. That transmission is WAY more EXC than i had hoped for. Which is absolute what i hoped for. Runs like butter. Need to give it some work with the AT300 and let it sort it out a bit more. Weather is crap...

3rd gear from 2000rpm...braaaaAAAARP. Nada hickup...almost as my Nissan Leaf. Instant´ish torque.

Fantastic. It must be a hoot!
How on earth is it that light?

Hmm good question. No ABS, TC, computers. Airfilter is the ITG. Akra´s have been cut 33%´ish. Safaris should be less kg than standard. Front needs the ballast and LEDs. Got Sumos from a SD installed(tubeless). No seat. No bashplate.

I will measure again when the headlight are sourced, bashplate mounted, 21/18 installed.

It was a blast, in many ways. More will likely come incl. when i get it optimized on the local dyno.

something's got to be wrong. If this is anywhere near 380lbs dry even missing a few parts I have some serious reading to do. I would HAVE to know where the LBS went to. Thanks for this thread!

Agree. I´ll redo when winter doesn´t suck anymore....or work for that matter.

For reference, my 1199ratventure with 16 liter smr tank, ready to ride with 21 and 18 inch with some fuel came in at 198kilo. About 10 i could still take off but would also lose protection and useful stuff then. Like bashplate tool bin and pannier rack.

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Many thanks for posting stevenD. Im worried that i may have done wrong in my measure. I will check scale again as it sounds to good.

Im sure that i have scammed you guys.
Just lifted a safaried SE 950.




195kg


I'll right my wrong.

I had a girlfriend that weighed 190kg,she didnt go anything like a 950 se

Looks good locul,great engine the lc8 .

Hi guys.
There is a lot of same parts between 950adv/se and 950sm, so maybe my story will be interesting for somebody, but please sorry for my bad english.
I have a 950sm 2006 and when i killed my stock engine i decided to start a 1190sm-r project.
The main thing - i didn't want just an engine from 1190, i wanted all the electronics from it.
So i looked for nessesary parts for some time, spent a lot of money, but i got complete engine from 1190adv, it's wiring harness with all ECU and VCU modules, speedometer, injectors, brakes, ABS module, fork and shosk with EDS, swingarm, hubs, headlight, fuel pump and may be some else, i don't remember yet.
The first thing to do was the frame. I found an workshop that engages in repair of frames after crashes.
They cut out of the frame the swingarm bushings and placed them for nessesary width to put the adventure swingarm inside.


But there is no such free place in the frame, and i had to reduce the width of right arm of swingarm on 3mm.

After it they produced bended tubes near the rear cylinder head, so the engine fit inside the frame.
And after it they produced the engine brackets and moved the shock mount.





While the frame was in progress i assembled the wheels. Front 17*3,5" and rear 17*5,5". Of cource with Outex.

More than that i knew that the stock 1190adv airbox will not fit under the fuel tank, so i bought powercellpermomance s3 airfilter kit with tuning velocity stacks and SAS delete kit, Scarichi silencers and Bazzaz control unit.



Now i have two troubles before i'll take the first ride on the bike.
The first one is the fuel system. I have two ideas how to solve it. I can cut the fuel tank and try to fit the adv1190 fuel pump inside and i can use external fuel pump with adjustable pressure regulator. I'm starting to buy parts for experiments.
The second trouble is the exhaust. I want to save the location of my two silencers, but there is very-very little free place inside the swingarm and between the swingarm and the shock. In addition the shock is mounted in center of the frame and i don't know yet how to place the exhaust tubes.
That's all for this time. If someone like it i will post next stages of the project.

What a first post!!!!

Just FYI, might want to start your own thread :)

That is a massive first post. You got some great info covered there. You might want to start your own thread in the KTM 950 area. As you can cover the details way better. The exhaust would have to go low and left if 2-2 or right if 2-1.
I´m moving away from the 17/17 setup. I have a complete 1290 19x3.00, 17x5.00 rim. But Woodys wheels shop have shared the info that it will not fit the 950 hubs....so i´m on the hunt again.

Actually, i would like to have that oil-see-through-scale that the 1190 adv came with...

Amazing project - please keep it coming and coming. As for your fuel pump issue, depending on what you're going to use for a fuel tank, it could be as simple as using a fuel tank from a euro-spec (non-north American) KTM 990SM which is exactly like the 950sm except it's fuel injected. You can also decide to use a fuel tank from a 990 SMR or 990 SMT depending on the look, fuel capacity you're after and the look you want. The 990sm uses the same seat as the 950sm and the 990 SMR and SMT use different seats. For all three tanks, they will bolt onto your frame with the correct mounting bushings and spacers and both seat types will fit your bike and subframe. With any of those tanks, you can use the internal fuel pump and pressure regulator (or even a fuel pump and regulator from a Superduke 990 or even an RC8R). The exhaust is a slightly different issue because:
1- the exhaust header shape for an 1190/1290 engine are different than any 990 (oval ports vs round)
2- as you've stated, you've moved the rear shock position and likely eliminated the required space for the rear header u-bend...that one is going to be a challenge and I suspect that you'll end up being forced to custom build a system that runs under the engine rather than alongside like the 950se or 950/990 adv. You've also got the oil cooler on the right side of the engine to contend with for space and clearance of exhaust pipes...

Are you planning to retain traction control, abs (and cornering abs), etc? If so, make sure you clearly understand how and where each sensor / component gets installed as their position relative to the ground is critical (the bike needs to know when it is exactly upright vs leaned in a turn, etc).

Anyhow, amazing project, I can't wait to see more - I watch with envy and excitement.

Ezhik,
very very nice. One day I'd like to do the same...

A point of note following alongat's post. The tanks of the 990SM and 950SM are not interchangeable without some work. Fitting the 990SM tank to the 950SM requires new mounts on the frame and the top radiator hose re-routing. Ideally you would change the radiator to do this, but it's not essential, and if you do change the radiator you'll lose one of the fans. Hmmm. In addition you'll also need the 990's coolant expansion tank and then devise a way to mount it on the 950 radiator; the original 950 expansion tank just won't fit under the new tank. Oh, and you'll need to find somewhere to mount the horn. All reasonably simple stuff, and it is clear you are more than capable of doing this, based on your impressive work so far.

The seat-to-tank interface of the 950SM is quite different to the 990SM, so you'll need to change that to match your new tank... and if you want the seat to look as if it belongs on the bike, you'll need to either modify the subframe, or replace your 950 subframe with that of the 990. The rear bodywork of the 950SM will fit to the new subframe, but why not go the whole-hog and replace that too? In my opinion, the 950 rear bodywork looked a bit odd with the 990 tank.

The 990SMR tank is smaller (less capacity) than the 990SM, but uses the same frame fittings. The 990SMT tank is (I think) the same capacity as the 990SM (Google is your friend), but is a slightly different shape to accommodate the the top fairing mounts. All the 990 seats are different, but they should all be interchangeable. Having said that, I found the 990SMR seat wouldn't fit the 990SMT subframe without repositioning the seat catch. All the 990 tanks have an in-tank pump.

If your original bike was a 950SMR, the story is quite different, as the mountings are very similar to the later 990SM/R/T. In this case however, I have no direct experience as I started with a 950SM.


Good luck with the rest of the build!!

Cheers... Paul

Thanks all, i didn't expect such a reaction!

I think that my exhaust will be built on the stock 1190 exhaust collector 2-1, but after connection of both cylinders pipes it will pass inside the swingarm like 950sm exhaust. And then it will be separate again for 2 tubes and pass both sides of the shock.

Thanks for this information, but it seems to me that you mean the fuel tank from 950smr. But i have SM 2006 model year, and there is another fuel tank and i have never seen such tanks on 990's bikes. If i will use the 990sm/r fuel tank, i must use the seat, side plastic and rear panel seat. It is too expencive, and another side of it i don't want to do so radical exterior changes, i like the look of my bike

yes, i am. I'm now looking for free place for ABS and roll sensors. More than that i want to do adjustuble mounting for this sensors to achieve the ideal work of the MTC.
If i would like just the engine from 1190adv, it's simply to built bike with rc8/r harness and ECU