Ultra rugged Kyocera phones,GPS smartphones ..my guide

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by PDX Alamo, Feb 19, 2017.

  1. Turbominivanman

    Turbominivanman Single track anyone?

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    Oh and for the record. Every time I even try pointing the KTM at a Starbucks, it fights me and does bot let me proceed. Kinda like the little Herbie Volkswagen bug:)
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  2. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    Lollz ! No man, Starbucks- on those days when hypothermia is looming. Or ya need tachycardia in a cup.
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  3. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    I am new to the phone world, but have about 20 years experience with Garmin GPSs. I have managed to learn enough of Osmand, Locus, Backcountry Navigator, and Avenza recently to get what I need done. I mainly want to be able to follow tracks. Rather than firehose myself by watching all the videos and reading what manuals exist, I use the following strategy to learn a new navigation program.

    Learn
    how to run it and learn a few of the basic icons
    how to download maps
    how to get the program to use the phone's gps
    how to download and display tracks
    how to get it to record and save a track
    how to navigate a track
    how to download and create waypoints and display them
    how to create a new route.

    I am not familiar with smart phone icons and learning them has been hard
    I also found that I needed to get an app that will freeze the screen rotation. The screen was flipping upside down in landscape mode even with Rotation turned off.
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  4. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crape.rotationcontrol&hl=en just what the app is called, rotation control. Works well, and the premissions are all jacked up either.
  5. Didediedide

    Didediedide Adventurer

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    Gday All , thanks to pdxalamo and all the other people on the forum I've bitten the bullet and bought a duraforce
    Pro but being in AUSTRALIA I'm having trouble getting tethering to work, could anyone give me help in getting it to work
    Regards Paul
    "Errant "I notice your from Australia and have had similar troubles , I have sent you a message in "conversations" with my phone number could you please give me a call Regards Paul
  6. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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  7. DaMonk45

    DaMonk45 I B Da Monk

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    price is $500+/- ????
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  8. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    crazy, ain't it?
  9. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    Remind me to take a screen shot of my DF Pro charging at 2,400 ma next time I plug it into the factory wall charger.
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  10. isde97

    isde97 Adventurer

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    I will have more to share later, but I thought I would post up a pic of my holder solution. This is essentially the RAM design for the iPhone adapted to the E6560 Kyocera, and 3D printed. My first print attempt broke, I changed the build orientation and it has been solid since. Even though it is pictured on my 250, the holder has mostly been used on my MTB and road bike, and has spent some time on my 990. I just put it up on Shapeways and getting one printed there to see if that would be a good way to share.

    Holder w phone.jpeg Holder bare.jpeg
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  11. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    link ?

    looks great !
  12. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    @isde97 just pinging you for a link to the shape file
  13. isde97

    isde97 Adventurer

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    Well, I was going to have Shapeways make one before I offered it that way... buy at your own risk until I test it out. The one shown in the pictures was made on a FDM printer, Shapeways uses a different technology.

    https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rogue-elephant-racing

    The clamp there has been tested and works on 1-1/4 bars found on bicycles. Fat bars on motorcycles (like Pro Tapers) are 1-1/8.

    I also put it up on grabcad. If printing with a FDM printer, print it on its side.

    https://grabcad.com/library/kyocera-e6560-holder-with-ram-interface-1

    Pic with it on my MTB:

    Holder MTB.jpeg
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  14. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    thank you! I've sent the file you kindly provided to my library, we'll see how it goes :-)
  15. BLucare

    BLucare Ambitious, but rubbish

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    Question for those you running OsmAnd:

    I have the free version at the moment. I figured, once my seven downloads were used up, I could just pay for individual maps after that. Turns out, that's not how it works. Right, no problem, OsmAnd Plus is the next step. Is the $6.50 a one-time charge? Also, do my GPX tracks get imported automatically to OsmAnd Plus, or do I need to start over completely?

    Cheers,

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  16. DaMonk45

    DaMonk45 I B Da Monk

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    One time charge
    All the free maps you can stand and updates forever.

    For your GPX tracks. copy them to the phone.
    Tap them...when it tries to open them and asks what program to use pick OSMAND
    Locus is a bit better with tracks than OSM but both work fine.
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  17. Shawnee Bill

    Shawnee Bill Long timer

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    I keep seeing this and wonder what it means?
    I've been using Osmand+ for a few rides using tracks. Not sure what Locus could do better, I've been playing with Locus for a couple of weeks now and it's not real friendly. Osmand on the other hand took about 10 minutes to figure out.
  18. cyberdos

    cyberdos Easy Bonus Loop

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    Try importing a file that has multiple tracks into Osmand and try to navigate it.

    Do the same with Locus.

    They are worlds apart.
  19. DaMonk45

    DaMonk45 I B Da Monk

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    Locus has the ability to take 2 or 3 small tracks and turn them into 1 long track.
    Makes changes on the fly very quickly. Well on the fly being stuck out in the woods someplace.
    it just handles tracks better.
  20. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    IMHO the worst thing about Osmand is that if you have a complex trip gpx file with lots of tracks, Osmand treats the file kind of like one track, i.e., all tracks are displayed by default and all have the same color. The only way I found around this was to make a file for each track and load it into Osmand.

    Locus lets me view each track separately from the rest. You can also just click on a track on the map screen and Locus will highlight it nicely for navigation (until you touch something else).

    Also Locus has lots of nice track management functions. You can make subfolders, so if I had a trip with lots of tracks, I could make a folder for it and put the file there. It makes it really easy to manage things that way. I see there are many other interesting looking functions that I haven't played with yet.