Ultra rugged Kyocera phones,GPS smartphones ..my guide

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by PDX Alamo, Feb 19, 2017.

  1. webmonstro

    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    With my casio commando i'm using the external charging points like the duraforce and works great
    had to make my own connector , with a small bit of plastic and some pogo-pins
  2. cyberdos

    cyberdos Easy Bonus Loop

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    You can do it how I do it:

    it'll work fine. The only advantage that the Garmin will have over any phone is using it with gloves. No matter how good a phone is with gloves it just doesn't beat out the way the Garmins do it. But that is a minuscule price to pay. You shouldn't be fiddling around with the unit while riding anyway.
  3. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    are you talking about using two Bluetooth phones to your headsets?
  4. Mikef5000

    Mikef5000 Long timer

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    Kind of?!
    The Sena connects to two devices.
    I have an Iphone, that makes phone calls and plays streaming music. And I have a fellow rider with a comm. That's it, no room left for device number three, this GPS phone.
    My point is, the Garmin will play my Iphones streaming music and phone calls and GPS guidance, all to my comm as one device. I was hoping someone would chime in with a magic 'android Bluetooth pass-through'. The answer is probably to turn my iPhone on as a hotspot, and stream music on the GPS phone. Not an ideal solution since I don't have a hot-spot data plan.
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  5. MrMac

    MrMac Long timer

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    I don't have a Sena, but my Uclear will connect to my Android Phone (using BT phone), to my GPS/music player (using BT audio) which is just another Android device, and intercom with another Uclear headset. I don't think the comm connection uses BT protocol at all, but something different.. It can be tricky, but it works. Most often I now just use my phone for everything though..
  6. cyberdos

    cyberdos Easy Bonus Loop

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    I use two phones ( one for calls and the other for music and GPS) and connect to multiple other comm units. As many as 3 at once.

    See my previous post.
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  7. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    I don't stream music or play MP3's on my DF pro but I tried it so I could if I wanted to. Rider talk GPS and occasionally a phone call is plenty.
  8. rarepartbuilder

    rarepartbuilder redemption gypsy

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    been looking at the ebay ESN problem /used Kyocera Duraforce Pro's and noticed some comments about a o ring that needed to be replaced and a hard time sourcing... anybody hear tell of this.. where is this item located on the phone?
  9. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    First I heard of it. Got any more info ?
  10. rarepartbuilder

    rarepartbuilder redemption gypsy

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    It was in one of the question and answer portions of a damaged Kyocera Duraforce Pro ebay phone up for sale.

    The phone in question description had already stated that it was not waterproof due to the rubber pulling away from some other part of the phone... this o ring business popping up in further discussions was a red flag for me. i thought i would ask about/investigate before trying to pull the trigger on one...especially a used phone.
    I love my old hi-sense tablet on the bike... but a waterproof unit its not.

    thanks
    Bill
  11. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    orings cover the headset and charging port covers to seal out dirt/water. if the flap is torn off t can be hard to find a replacement. at that point I would just rtv one of those magnetic break away plugs to it and forget about the issue.
  12. rarepartbuilder

    rarepartbuilder redemption gypsy

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    Good to know .. i can deal with a port plugged to keep the water out...
  13. cyberdos

    cyberdos Easy Bonus Loop

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    Yes. YOU HAVE TO take care of those open ports!

    I had my old Brigadier drown after gently cleaning it with water when I tore the headphone jack cover off. Even with a tiny bit of water that got inside it damaged it. Since that phone had been so dependable I didn't really think it would harm it but it ruined it. Keep those ports sealed.
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  14. Nesbocaj

    Nesbocaj Earth, we're #1

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    Unless it is stupid cheap, why mess with a damaged one?
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  15. rsl47m

    rsl47m Been here awhile

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    I have a new Pro for sale. Its perfect and comes with a case and screen protector. Pm for details and pics.
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  16. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    Questions sent.
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    Can your Iphone bluetooth tether to the Android?
    I have been playing with this android to android and it works without me having a "hot-spot" plan.

    You wont get phone calls, but you should be able to stream music & GPS via the android and connect with the other riders com.
    You will also no longer have a offline android and will have other online capabilities.
  18. Nesbocaj

    Nesbocaj Earth, we're #1

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    Sorry no IPhone info. I can tether my non-connected phone to my plan phone (androids both) and dial, and message using the Hangouts APP on the non-plan phone.
    And use the Sena to connect to other riders when set up to do so.
  19. cyberdos

    cyberdos Easy Bonus Loop

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    my .02 is that the battery is a non-issue if used wisely. Sure, if you have the phone on with the brightness full blast and multiple apps going at once while sucking up data, it will be. But if the screen unit is used conservatively these batteries will last the length of the ride without issue. Keep a battery pack at the read and simply plug it in whenever you take extended stops. But in all honesty, unless you're riding for 8 hours straight without any breaks, you really shouldn't even have to. Just charge it when you get to your destination.

    My brigadier's battery is smaller than both of these units and I have run out of battery twice (my own fault) in 4-5 years of usage.

    The screen size of the XD for me is just too big but that's a personal preference. Since I rarely use the unit for navigating on road i like a smaller unit that wont bounce on the handlebars as much. I actually even prefer the old Brigadier over the Pro because of it. I've never had any issues with the Brigadier's lack of power (RAM) running multiple apps at once so I really doubt you'll have any issues with either of the newer units.

    To me, if you ride more on road and prefer the bigger screen, XD. If not, Pro.
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  20. climberevan

    climberevan planning the next journey

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    I've been using my Pro for a bit & must disagree about the battery. I do regularly ride 8+ hours without significant breaks, so it dies on me. I turn off the screen when I'm on a long stretch, and the only app running is Locus, with the phone on airplane mode. With track recording running, it gets around 6hrs.

    I built a mount with pogo pins, but have had a hard time getting the phone to stay on them firmly enough. Also apparently my ebay usb charger isn't actually putting out the claimed 2.1A, so charging is slow.

    Obviously I need to address both of these issues. I'm still convinced that the phone is way better than a Garmin unit, but battery life is definitely not a non-issue.

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