Ultra rugged Kyocera phones,GPS smartphones ..my guide

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by PDX Alamo, Feb 19, 2017.

  1. Mikef5000

    Mikef5000 Long timer

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    Couple questions from someone about to jump on this band wagon.

    I'm looking at the XD and Pro... Leaning towards Pro. Looks like you can get the XD for around $100... And Verizon Pro for around $200. I have Verizon now, so my thought is, with a Verizon Pro with a clean ESN, if my normal phone ever dies, I could activate the Pro as a backup phone. Seem legit? Then there's the fact that the Verizon Pro has the fancy glass (all Verizon Pros have it correct?)

    I figured I would buy the Perfect Squeeze phone mount. Any better options?

    Biggest question:
    How are you guys charging while riding? I want to use it like a stand alone GPS; screen always on. It looks like the Pro has three methods of charging: USB, pins, or wireless. USB is the most delicate and not waterproof, but it seems to be the only doable option. I can't find any info on charging through the pins; which seems perfect. High power transfer, low heat, and easy! Glue to spring contacts to my phone mount, and when I snap the phone in, they make contact. Why isn't this done more frequently? Is it not simply 5v dc, 2 amps, positive to one pin, negative to the other?

    The way I see it, about $200 for the phone, $100 for the mount and charger, and $20-$40 for several apps I would use. Am I missing any pieces to this puzzle? Coming in around $330 isn't cheap, but it's half the price of a good Garmin.

    Biggest advantage I see with the Garmin is I can pass through my phone audio. I have a Sena 20s, which prefers only 2 Bluetooth connections. I generally ride with one other person connected, leaving me one Bluetooth connection available. With the Garmin, I can pass my Pandora through to hear music and directions. With the Pro, I'll have to choose which phone to connect to my Sena; maps and offline music, or calls and Pandora. My current GPS (that I've used for ten years) doesn't connect to my Bluetooth, so it's not a deal breaker. But is there a solution?
  2. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    My pro comms with my Sena SMH10 just fine. I'm pretty sure the sapphire crystal screen glass is exclusive to the Pro. Nothing wrong with gorrilla glass III. I got it for nav but now I'm using my pro as my daily device. Yah the 13mp 1080p action cam in it is awesome and all the rest of it's a treat but...the audio quality and active back ground noise cancellation...over the top good.
  3. webmonstro

    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    With my casio commando i'm using the external charging points like the duraforce and works great
    had to make my own connector , with a small bit of plastic and some pogo-pins
  4. cyberdos

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    You can do it how I do it:

    it'll work fine. The only advantage that the Garmin will have over any phone is using it with gloves. No matter how good a phone is with gloves it just doesn't beat out the way the Garmins do it. But that is a minuscule price to pay. You shouldn't be fiddling around with the unit while riding anyway.
  5. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    are you talking about using two Bluetooth phones to your headsets?
  6. Mikef5000

    Mikef5000 Long timer

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    Kind of?!
    The Sena connects to two devices.
    I have an Iphone, that makes phone calls and plays streaming music. And I have a fellow rider with a comm. That's it, no room left for device number three, this GPS phone.
    My point is, the Garmin will play my Iphones streaming music and phone calls and GPS guidance, all to my comm as one device. I was hoping someone would chime in with a magic 'android Bluetooth pass-through'. The answer is probably to turn my iPhone on as a hotspot, and stream music on the GPS phone. Not an ideal solution since I don't have a hot-spot data plan.
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  7. MrMac

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    I don't have a Sena, but my Uclear will connect to my Android Phone (using BT phone), to my GPS/music player (using BT audio) which is just another Android device, and intercom with another Uclear headset. I don't think the comm connection uses BT protocol at all, but something different.. It can be tricky, but it works. Most often I now just use my phone for everything though..
  8. cyberdos

    cyberdos Easy Bonus Loop

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    I use two phones ( one for calls and the other for music and GPS) and connect to multiple other comm units. As many as 3 at once.

    See my previous post.
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  9. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    I don't stream music or play MP3's on my DF pro but I tried it so I could if I wanted to. Rider talk GPS and occasionally a phone call is plenty.
  10. rarepartbuilder

    rarepartbuilder redemption gypsy

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    been looking at the ebay ESN problem /used Kyocera Duraforce Pro's and noticed some comments about a o ring that needed to be replaced and a hard time sourcing... anybody hear tell of this.. where is this item located on the phone?
  11. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    First I heard of it. Got any more info ?
  12. rarepartbuilder

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    It was in one of the question and answer portions of a damaged Kyocera Duraforce Pro ebay phone up for sale.

    The phone in question description had already stated that it was not waterproof due to the rubber pulling away from some other part of the phone... this o ring business popping up in further discussions was a red flag for me. i thought i would ask about/investigate before trying to pull the trigger on one...especially a used phone.
    I love my old hi-sense tablet on the bike... but a waterproof unit its not.

    thanks
    Bill
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    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    orings cover the headset and charging port covers to seal out dirt/water. if the flap is torn off t can be hard to find a replacement. at that point I would just rtv one of those magnetic break away plugs to it and forget about the issue.
  14. rarepartbuilder

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    Good to know .. i can deal with a port plugged to keep the water out...
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    cyberdos Easy Bonus Loop

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    Yes. YOU HAVE TO take care of those open ports!

    I had my old Brigadier drown after gently cleaning it with water when I tore the headphone jack cover off. Even with a tiny bit of water that got inside it damaged it. Since that phone had been so dependable I didn't really think it would harm it but it ruined it. Keep those ports sealed.
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  16. Nesbocaj

    Nesbocaj Earth, we're #1

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    Unless it is stupid cheap, why mess with a damaged one?
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  17. rsl47m

    rsl47m Been here awhile

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    I have a new Pro for sale. Its perfect and comes with a case and screen protector. Pm for details and pics.
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  18. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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    Questions sent.
  19. Ogre_fl

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    Can your Iphone bluetooth tether to the Android?
    I have been playing with this android to android and it works without me having a "hot-spot" plan.

    You wont get phone calls, but you should be able to stream music & GPS via the android and connect with the other riders com.
    You will also no longer have a offline android and will have other online capabilities.
  20. Nesbocaj

    Nesbocaj Earth, we're #1

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    Sorry no IPhone info. I can tether my non-connected phone to my plan phone (androids both) and dial, and message using the Hangouts APP on the non-plan phone.
    And use the Sena to connect to other riders when set up to do so.