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Discussion in 'Epic Rides' started by Underboning, Aug 16, 2011.
thanks again for sharing ... amazing how large a portion transport expenses ended up.
Colin and Re,
I'm a long time lurker to Adv, first time posting. Your reports were something I looked forward to each day while you were on the road. Thank you so much for sharing your trip, the ups, the downs, and the everyday travel routine. Thank you also for the update. After following the report for so long it was hard not to hear how you guys were doing. I'm glad that it is working out for you two.
The Concours is one of the bikes I'm considering after a 20 year hiatus from cycling, or maybe a ST1100, or Nighthawk 750, or, or .... Hopefully, this summer I will actually decide on one and get it. Thanks again.
Glad you guys are doing well; yeah it really must suck having to return to the working world after such an amazing trip. All the best and thanks for the update!
Thanks, Colin for putting up the totals. A zen master might urge a mindset change to help understand that you are still on the "journey", but that's hard to grasp unless..... you are a zen master.
Another inmate once wrote this about that culture sclock of going back to the grind or finding "nirvana"
" In samsara—the endless cycle of suffering—we are always winning and losing the same game, somehow expecting to make progress. We spend part of our life trying to get it together, and the other part watching it fall apart. We don’t realize that if we try to gain something, we had better be ready to lose it. As soon as we have time—“I have a whole hour free”—we are losing it. We work hard to have a relationship, and then it breaks up. We come together for a holiday party, and then it’s over. We buy a new car, and the fender gets a dent. We’re playing the game of “’What about me?’ If I gain something, I will be happy. If I lose something, I’ll be miserable.” Competition is unstable. Even when we win, we have not really won. We always have to prove ourselves again. Gain and loss are meaningless preoccupations. True victory is not being caught by the illusion of permanence. It is not being hooked by negative emotions. It comes about when we free ourselves from the illusion of “me.”
If this doesn't work, you might try a book titled The Zen of the Ride or something like that.
The truth is you are a talented story writer/rider - maybe you should take your story on the road.
Like every one else who has posted, I loved "the ride" and appreciate you sharing the dollars and sense. Ride safe and let the good times roll...
Thanks for the update! Just got back from SE Asia (not on a motorcyle) and want to go back already.
Colin & Re,
Congratulations on your Underbone Adventure. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I've just finished Colin's account here, next I shall read Re's account on her blog.
You made me give up the idea of traveling to India, buying a Royal Enfield there, and motoring around the country. I will go, but I'll use public transportation.
I did a 7k ride on a 150cc scooter this summer - http://the-coulee.blogspot.com
Thanks again. All the best in all you do. -J
Awesome ride report. Thanks for sharing!
After stumbling across your thread last fall I went out and bought these:
Thanks for the inspiration!
I also bought this (couldn't resist, it was only $400 and runs beautifully).
I haven't read your entire report but plan to do so now that I've stumbled across you again.
Wow! From the Symbas to a Connie! That's quite a leap, in weight & speed, if nothing else. I'll bet both Symbas together don't weigh as much as the Connie C-10. I'll venture another guess, that the Connie will exceed the top speed of the Symbas in 1st gear. I wonder how many miles the Symba would go on that 7.5 gal. tank? You'll come to love the Connie though. I can't think of a better "bang for the buck" vehicle. I owned mine for 11 years & 50,000mi. & bought 3 sets of tires, 2 batteries, & lots of oil & filters. That's it, period, nada! Nothing ever broke. I'd recommend joining COG, the owners club. It's the best extended warranty I've ever seen. The folks there know every nut & bolt on that bike & are friendly & eager to share.
Jim, I love your enthusiasm for the Connie. My best friend had the C-10 and now has a C-14. Awesome bikes. Pretty sure Colin said he had a Connie in the 90's and put 80,000 miles on it (if I recall correctly). So, nothing new for him.
I met this couple this weekend and heard a first hand account of their travels. All I can say is... WOW!!! Simply an amazing journey and I am in awe of the entire project. Well done.
Yes it was, the presentation was great, and the Q&A afterward was awesome. Great questions with some damn good answers, I'm glad I went.
shipping two Symba's ended being a major chunk of costs ($7,322)... at $2k each ... would it have been more cost effective to sell, instead of paying for shipping charges? then buy brand new Symba's at destination?
As another poster mentioned, I have had a bunch of seat time on a C10 in the 90s. They are great bikes and relatively bulletproof, too. Mine had 84K on it when I decided to do a little deer slaying on the way home from work one night. Right now we need a (cheap) bike that can easily cruise up and down I-95 between Virginia and North Carolina and I immediately thought of the Concours. Its been perfect for that and a few trips to the mountains so far. Later this summer we plan on doing some camping at the coast with it. And yes, the first time I rolled onto I-95 I was shocked at the acceleration. After a year on a Symba, it was a surprise!
I'm glad you guys enjoyed it, we had fun, too! Hope we didn't run too long, we were only supposed to be on for 30 minutes and I guess we ran over by quite a bit.
Re was a little more than a little nervous about talking to such a large group. At one point she said that she'd rather ride India again! But she said that she actually enjoyed it once she got started.
The shipping charges did add up, but we wanted to do the trip on the same bikes and have them as a souvenir at the end.
That said, buying and selling wouldn't have been very easy for our trip. Many (or most) countries won't let you register a vehicle if you aren't a citizen or don't have a permanent address in the country. There are workarounds in many countries, but they can be expensive, time consuming, and of questionable legality. And if you are going to travel through any countries that require Carnet, then things get exponentially harder.
We considered flying and renting, but that means you have to always return to the city you began in. Not a very efficient way to get around the world, in my opinion.
If we were only doing a section of the world then buying or renting would be a much better option. For instance, you can fly into Malaysia, buy an underbone, ride out through Thailand, Cambodia, and Laos and then return to Malaysia to sell the bike on. Alternately, you can buy a well used bike in Viet Nam and ride out to the other countries listed above. Since most bikes from Viet Nam aren't worth much (and don't cost much) you can just abandon it at the airport when you leave or donate it to a worthy cause. We saw abandoned Vietnamese plated bikes several places on our trip.
I don't think anybody minded the extra time. This was the third time I've been at one of these and I've seen the audience reaction which is always polite. With you guys, it was beyond just polite. They were very engaged in everything you had to say. The Q&A might have gone a little long but not by much and I don't think anybody complained. During your actual presentation, you had them hanging on your every word.
Just a note as well, I don't think anybody suspected that this was the first time you gave a public speech on the trip. The comedic timing between you and Re was perfect.
I don't suppose anybody videotaped this talk. If so post it up for us to see.
Just drove back from NC this past weekend and as I passed the sign for Micro I just had to laugh remembering the "Micro Adjacent" ADVriders.