Unusual speed traps and other wily LEO stuff

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by eric2, May 9, 2013.

  1. eric2

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    Saw a new tactic yesterday. Rode home for lunch, exited the highway onto a major street. Rode over some RR tracks and spotted a guy sitting off the side of the road by a bus stop. He's wearing a black tshirt, jeans, and running shoes. As I pass by I noticed him with a small video camera, seemed kind of strange but this is austin, maybe he had a beef with buses running late :dunno

    I ride by the DPS HQ on the way home, and as I get closer I notice a blacked out crown vic LEO car going the same way a couple cars ahead. Not too unusual in the AO; but then another identical one going the opposite direction from me. Hmmm, maybe a training gig at HQ? I know they have unmarked cars, but not too many.

    I eat lunch and take the same route back to work. LO and behold, 2 blacked out crown vics have 2 separate cages pulled over and giving them tickets, wtf?

    Only then did it dawn on me, could it be? Sure enough, the same guy in the t-shirt is hanging around, I was right about the camera, but he wasn't shooting video, he was shooting radar with some small portable handheld unit, then radioing ahead info about the perps to the black crown vics.

    Seemed kind of sneaky to me. I can usually spot the bike and other LEO bases speed traps, but this was different. Prolly city cops though I didn't stop to ask.

    So, post up some sneaky speed trap, or other LEO based stings. I thought of another clever ruse used a few years back by DPS I'll share later.

    NOTE: I would prefer this not turn into an LEO bashing thread, they gotta job to do and there are plenty of other leo bashing threads around.
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  2. cakmakli

    cakmakli Made It - Army Retired

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    Not in the same spirit but when I wanted to slow traffic down and I didn't have the HR-12 with me I used to park and hold my radio out the window like I was running radar. It worked really good.
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  3. JustinP

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    How about the town of Morrison, CO annexing a section of land not even attached to their town, so they can write road tax bills.

    http://goo.gl/maps/kP71O

    That's pretty wily. Just do a google search for morrison, co speed trap.
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  4. cliffy109

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    They don't get that creative around this part of VA. The worst I've seen is one deputy standing at the end of a driveway in full hi-viz pointing his "gun" at traffic and three marked cars on the side of the road just past him. I think the lack of cover indicates the had plenty of customers without any ruse.
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  5. Dismount

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    There is a little spot on rt 19, on the beckley side of fayetteville. One cop in an old crappy crown vic sits hidden. Another one in one of the new chargers rides up and down the road 15-20 above the limit. People fall in behind the dodge, he drags them past the crown vic.

    Rinse. Repeat.
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  6. eric2

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    Thats pretty clever, and come to think of it the austin PD will park, then leave marked cars in the median to slow traffic.
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  7. Mr_Gone

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    Leaving unattended police cars parked in the median is a tried and true tactic. Though I would think that, after a few weeks, the effectiveness would diminish as all the commuters figured out no one was sitting in the car.

    Also, having one unmarked car radar/lase you, then radioing ahead to another vehicle is fairly common. Sneaky, but not unremarkable. Like they say: You can't outrun the radio.
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  8. fast4d

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    they've been doing that for the past few summers along PCH in socal/malibu/LACSD turf.
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    I don't go for that do as I say , not as I do crap. Speed trap or not , their shit stinks too.:topes
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  10. cakmakli

    cakmakli Made It - Army Retired

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    Along the Alaskan Highway in Canada I came across this:

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  11. Hookapelli

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    I rode 13 from Goldsboro to Fayetteville every day for about a year.... same sham there.
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    Coming back from Memphis a few years ago on the Western Kentucky Parkway, I spy a radar car's bubblegum machine up on an overpass. Since I was lolly gagging along, no problem to me. Go under the bridge, up a quarter mile and there are 7-10 sheriffs sitting there taking turns pulling people over. They were busy too.

    I've seen and experienced Ohio doing it on I-75 too. Thankfully, I had slowed down a bunch when they tagged me at 77/55 out of the crowd. That was only a $75 ticket back in '79. No breaks either.
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  13. ggoytia

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    Thanks for heads up Eric2

    Outskirts of dfw at night they like hide with their light completely off but the radar detector goes off. They have all blacked out or all white out cars along with usual cruiser.
    During the day way inside a private parking lot from 100 to 150 yards away.

    What I don't understand how this is not entrapment.:eek1

    That is just dirty tactics.
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  14. PT Rider

    PT Rider Been here awhile

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    Probably a laser speed gun. The ones used here look like the video cam.
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  15. grelcar

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    In Virginia I once saw a pickup on the side of the road with the hood up and two guys looking under the hood. They were in civilian clothes shooting radar and radioing to patrol cars further down the road.

    I went through a big speed trap in Connecticut once. Radar car was in a fairly hidden spot. Further down the road an officer was waving cars to the side of the road. They had a desk setup on the roadside with an officer writing tickets. There were at least 10 cars pulled over when I went by.
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  16. Conedodger

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    There is an abandoned rail road overpass over an expressway here. Every now and then a LEO will be parked up there nabbing speeders. The sides of the train bridge are high enough that you don't notice him if you aren't paying attention.
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    We used to see similar cutout cars and cutout cops holding radar guns.
    Eventually we got used to cardboard cops

    Then they started positioning real cops 100 meters or so down the road from the cutouts
    Very effective as you'd be back on the gas by the time you spotted they were real.
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  18. Bill Harris

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    Years ago Sumiton started parking an old barely-running police cruiser in the median with a blonde female mannikin (in uniform) in the driver's seat. They quit when it became a tourist attraction-- people would park on the roadside, cross a busy 4-lane highway to get their picture taken with the, uhh, cop. Rumor/urban legend had it that she was actually an inflatable sex toy... :eek1

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  19. alexp206

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    In South Korea they mount lightbars along the highway. Some are mobile some are portable. They're pretty obvious during the day, but at night you don't know if it's a car or a ruse until you're right on top of it.
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  20. GoUglyEarly

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    I got nabbed last year in Plainsboro, NJ.

    A week after school was out I had accelerated to about 40 in what was marked as a 35/25 when children are present, and got caught in a trap being run by about 5 LEOs.

    When I politely challenged the LEO about the limit, his first answer was that they were "protecting the school zone." When I remarked that school was out and the officer handling the radar gun was hiding (no pedestrians in sight) he smirked and got short with me, saying the speed limit was 25 and had been for years.

    I scheduled my court date and took lots and lots of pictures. When I showed up in court, the pictures clearly showed that the 25 signs were occluded by trees and vegetation and were within 30 feet of clearly marked "25 when children are present" signs...all in an otherwise 35 mph zone. There were other factors involved but I don't want to write a thesis...

    I had also called the state engineer at this point and registered a complaint. The engineer agreed that the signage was vague if not misleading and, in the case of the speed trap, being milked inappropriately.

    Central Jersey is notorious for aggressively collecting revenue off tickets, however, and the prosecutor wanted his fine but was willing to write the ticket based on a 35 zone instead of 25......I punked out and took the deal:fitz

    A few lessons:

    -If I had hired a lawyer I would probably have gotten no ticket
    -Always show up and fight, even if it is pro se.....be polite and professional
    -Don't try and reason with the LEO, at least not in speed trap circumstances, as they may take it personally as they have their 'mission' that day
    -LEOs are allowed to twist the truth, another reason not to engage them
    -Do your research..the law is not designed to be fair and they see more blatant liars in court than you can imagine

    You can bet that all the other people getting pulled over in that trap (nearly half the people I saw go through while I was pulled over) were getting ticketed at the 25 mph rate.

    A couple of months later the town fixed the signage and I have yet to see a LEO in that alley since. Why? Because I and maybe a handful of others did our homework, called the state, and fought back.

    The law is a process and the LEOs and court personnel are only executors. It is up to the people to protect themselves and effect change.
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