Upgrading to a middleweight Sport Tourer

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Butters, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. Nevada

    Nevada Been here awhile

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    Triumph Sprint ST. 955 or 1050.
    The VFRs are great also.
    Both the VFRs and Sprints can be tweaked on ergos. If you want a half-faired bike, the Sprint RS (955 triple) is great and can be had for low bucks.

    Were it me though, I'd go with the Tiger 800 of the "middleweight ST" given your criteria.
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  2. SnappNBrrap

    SnappNBrrap Been here awhile

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    VFR thats my dream bike. butter smooth V4, comfortable, powerful, pretty good wind protection stock, fantastic looking, and handles very well.
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  3. Butters

    Butters Kwyjibo

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    Well, I'm not yet sure if it's what I want or need, but I'm likely going to meet up with an Ohio rider in PA and possibly swap the K for a V . . .(Strom). It's a no-commitment meet and ride, so it may help me decide if a bigger adventure type bike is right or if I should lean more toward something like the VFR.
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  4. rocker59

    rocker59 diplomatico di moto

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  5. jas67

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    The Guzzitech reflash will cure the pinging problem. The previous owner of my Breva 1100 (basically the same bike as the Norge, less fairings, and 100cc less) had the same problem, as well as just generally not great fueling at all RPMs. He got the Guzzitech reflash, and that cured all. My Breva has the optional gel seat, which makes it (and the Norge) an all-day-comfortable bike.

    The 90-degree V-twin is smooth, yet has character lacking in many 4-cylinder engines. It has good torque throughout the rev range, and pulls strong the whole way to redline. Don't expect Harley-like torque below 3,500 RPM, these twins are tuned to make their best power from 3,500-7,500. The Breva has a nice relaxed cruise RPM of about 4,000 at 70, although, it really loves to cruise at 85 :evil.

    Yes, the dealer network is kind of thin, but Guzzis are very simple bikes to work on. If you do you own work, parts aren't a problem, as there are several very good dealers who will ship to you (M.P.H. cycles, Harper's Moto, and Rider's Hill to name a few). I don't know about the later 8-valve motor, but the 4-valve (2 per cylinder) motor is very simple to work on. Valve adjustments are a simple set-screw/lock nut affair, and with only 4 valves total (vs. say, 16 on your typical inline four), it is a relatively quick job, with no shims to buy. All Guzzi's are air (& oil) cooled, so no cooling system maintenance.
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  6. rocker59

    rocker59 diplomatico di moto

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    Speaking of pinging...

    A friend of mine has a new Tiger with three burned pistons...

    Triumph is fighting waranty coverage...

    :dunno
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  7. Butters

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    I traded the K75 for a 2005 V-Strom 1000 today. It wasn't really what I expected and wasn't exactly what I wanted, but I did like it a lot. Both of us left happy.

    It is definitely way more toward "tourer" than "sport", but I think it is going to scratch the itch for awhile. It cruises the highway much better than the K75. On twisty back roads, I really didn't think it handled any better but I was also riding an unfamiliar bike. The suspension does feel better over the road though - I guess 20 years of advancements is worth something. I think for both myself and the other rider, it was simply a chance to ride another bike for awhile.

    But now I need to buy some crap and make it my own.:D
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  8. Scott of the Sahara

    Scott of the Sahara Been here awhile

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    Good for you. The V Strom was out for me because I couldn't touch the ground while sitting on it. I rode my friend's K-75 a couple of years ago just when I was getting back into riding. I loved it. I rode it again last spring (1 year ago). He lives in France.
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  9. ag_streak

    ag_streak Tiene Ruta Cuarenta?

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    I always tell everyone the vstrom makes a great sport tourer. One of the most comortable bikes I ever rode, and yes, thete is a TON of crap available!
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    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    The also look surprisingly less vomitous with the factory lowers installed.
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    Now that it doesn't matter anymore and I'm wishing I had read to the bottom of the thread first........


    I don't think you can really go wrong with ANY of the bikes you have listed. However, since I've owned both of these bikes, I'll put in my $0.02 on them.

    The Tiger: It is tall, but very manageable and a hell of a good time. The view over traffic is nice up there. :) I would test ride it before writing it off for size.

    The Bandit: I've owned both a 1200 and a 1250, and I can tell you that unless you expect to throw it around like a GSXR, you'll never notice that weight. The Tiger is 100 lbs lighter, but the "butt feel" is about the same for both of them since the Bandit carries its weight lower. Both bikes have lots of low down grunt, but the bandit has more, which carries it off the line in superb fashion even with the extra 100 lbs.
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  12. ag_streak

    ag_streak Tiene Ruta Cuarenta?

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    I agree. If you consider the 1250 Bandit as a sport-tourer and compare it to factory-made sport-tourers like the FJR1300, ST1300, or R1200RT, it's a featherweight. Not to mention a bargain. :freaky
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