Upper Michigan ADV Riders

Discussion in 'Central – From Da Nort Woods to the Plane States' started by Yooper_Bob, Feb 25, 2008.

  1. Yooper_Bob

    Yooper_Bob Long timer

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    Be aware that the nothern loop is a long way between fuel stops...unless you top off in Big Bay. You will need at least 120 mile range (when leaving from Marquette). The short green track follows the snowmobile trail from Forestville out to Co Rd 510. This section is short, but it can be very steep/rocky/muddy. I was thru it this spring and 4X4's really had it torn up.

    Do you have a gps?
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  2. memopad

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    I ride that section from Forestville to 510 quite often. It was also my gf's first off road ride on a motorcycle, and she just started riding this summer. Anywhere I went on the dr she was able to follow on the xt without issue. Only had to ride/walk it through a couple of the deeper mud puddles for her! Speaking of... those mudded ruts as you get close to 510 are brutal this year. Worst I've seen it since I started playing out that way about 10 years ago. I "dropped" my DR in one of the mud holes and it was so stuck in the muck it leaned over about 20 degrees and just stopped lol.

    I have a smaller garmin 78 gps I can use in a pinch, but was planning on using my phone with a preloaded google map and gps overlay.

    Noted on the fuel range, I might pack in some gas with me just to be safe. I'm running stock tanks so I'm assuming not much over 100 miles range on either bike.
  3. Yooper_Bob

    Yooper_Bob Long timer

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    I took that track this spring on my brand new Africa Twin!

    It was.....challenging.

    Given the number of two-tracks on the pink southern route, a GPS is definitely needed to accurately follow the correct route.
  4. memopad

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    Thanks again for the track Bob, that gives me a great starting point!

    In the meantime, I need some tire help :D I recently ditched my stock trailwing tires and used an IRC TR8 up front and Shinko 244 in the rear. I was expecting a big improvement over the stock tires, and after a decent ride last weekend all I can say is that they're "different." The front is still sliding out on sand or anything loose. It almost feels like it slides out sooner on some more packed surfaces than stock, but in a more predictable manner. I really can't tell a difference in the rear, I'm still sliding and fishtailing all over in mud or sand. Mostly I've just noticed the bike feels more unstable over all, especially on pavement. I'm now wandering a little back and forth and find it hard to ride a perfectly straight line.

    What tires do I need to comfortably take this bike off road?! Or is the bike just too damn heavy? Or maybe I just suck at riding? I'm tired of riding around slowly in first gear with my feet out trying to keep the bike right side up.
  5. Junglejeff1

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    Have you tried the Dunlap 606?.
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    Not yet, wish I had gone that route in the rear. I'd heard the TR8 was better than the 606 for the front. Though I also heard the 244 rear was good off road as well :/ I know we all have different opinions on what off road riding actually means :D
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    I mentioned them because I put them on my 1977 TT500 and they work pretty good.Some of the sandstormers up there turned me onto a tire that I use on yz now on front.Michelin enduro competition.Excellent tire but would have to take it easy on the road.Sand or rock it just works.Goldentire also is popular up here.Goldentyre has a couple versions in a 90/100 that helps you plain out easier on a heavy bike and give you more rock protection.
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    LittleEagle On&Off Road since '63

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    Yes, the DR650 is a little difficult to get the front to keep from washing out. At least that's my experience and many I've talked to agree. Put a very aggressive tire up front and steer with the throttle. Best off-road combination I've found is Dunlop 606 rear and Pirelli MT21 front. These also handle reasonably on wet or dry pavement. Wear rate isn't too bad and they're fairly effective even after a few thousand miles. The MT21 is really loud. Best 50/50 combination I've used is Mitas E-07 rear and Shinko 804 front, which I'm currently running on my DR and which I recently rode in rain and slick mud, cautiously but successfully, on Peshekee grade and all around Mt.Arvon area, then all over the back country of the Keweenaw.
  9. Yooper_Bob

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    I run a TR8 on the front of my KTM 640 Adventure....I really like its handling on and off road. Used to run a 606 on the front of my old DRZ. I like the TR8 better for mixed riding.

    What pressure are you running up front?
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    Bultaco206 Back-to-back motos suck

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    Love me some TR8/Shinko 244 combo in the U.P.

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    With so many different surfaces (sand, loam, gravel, pavement) up there that combo covers the bases the best for me, I've found.
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    I think around 22psi or so in the front, 20 in the back. I'll have to check them.
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    My wife and I rode the UPAT this summer two up on the 990. The section between L'Anse and Big Bay was one of our favorites. Last summer we played around a bit north of Nestoria as well, fun stuff. Anyhow, great area to ride. Yooper Bob, I'll send you a pm as well for those tracks. Hopefully will do some exploring up that way again next summer.

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    Oh on topic of tires, for a big bike, I'm really liking the Goldentyre Gt723s.

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    Hey guys, anyone around here a yooper? I'm new to this forum and I just sold my hog and bought a ktm 500 exc trying to get back in the offroad game. I've been following cannonshots ride around the upper peninsula and definitely want to start planning for that as early as possible. Anyone know if cannonshot still does it?
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  15. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    Lemme know if you find something out about it. :D

    Welcome Luke! I went ahead and moved your introduction into the Yooper thread as you'll make some good connections there.

    Feel free to get in touch anytime about my UP tracks/rides. :D
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    Bultaco206 Back-to-back motos suck

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    Awesome thanks for the redirect cannon now back to the question are you still doing the UP ride?
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    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    I didn't take a group this year. Might next year - too early to know yet. But, many groups are riding the UPAT on their own. You might want to connect with some group (or form one). GPS guided.

    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/upper-peninsula-adventure-trail-upat-1250-miles.627424/

    If you've got ambition, you can do the NWAT as well: http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/northern-wisconsin-adventure-trail-nwat.792871/

    We also do some informal weekend rides in the UP from time to time.

    I also have some projects pending that I need to proof ride up there during the week.
  19. Yooper_Bob

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    Welcome to the madness Luke.

    Cannonshot is a great guy, and contributes a ton to the sport.

    Be forewarned....if you attend one of his rides, be prepared to RIDE! He stops for nothing and no one. :lol3

    Be sure to watch for the Central Rally info. Normally held in northern Wisconsin and held in late July or early August. A great way to meet other inmates from the central region. Dates/location normally announced shortly after the start of the new year.

    I grew up in the Newberry area, and still have family over that way.
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    That's great Bob and thanks for the welcome I'm looking forward to an exciting future with fellow adv riders being a newbie to the sport I make it over to Marquette every once in a while maybe we could chat over a cup of coffee I'd love to learn some of the do's and don'ts from someone who has done the don'ts and does the do's!