Ural Cross for the USA??

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by MooseKiller, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. MooseKiller

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    Whoa! This thing is AWESOME! I just stumbled across the Ural Cross model just introduced for Europe...

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    Soooo... Anyone who is 'in-the-know' have any information about this possibly coming to the US? The European website states that for those who have a Ural combination already can purchase the "Cross" tub and swap with the existing tub. It also states that it can be purchased with- or without 2WD...

    ANY additional information about this awesome addition to the Ural family is appreciated!
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  2. Sidecardoug

    Sidecardoug Pleasantly pleasing

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    Cool news. I would buy one for my hack
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  3. AceRph

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    A tub swap would be in order if that becomes available.

    Doesn't look good for the good ole USA market.
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  4. Sidecardoug

    Sidecardoug Pleasantly pleasing

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    North America is a big market for Ural. If we make enough noise, we might get them here.
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  5. outfit

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    Look's a bit half-hearted to me.

    I mean they've just stuck an enduro sidecar onto a road bike. Think if they'd have made an enduro looking puller to compliment the sidecar it might be a bit more convinceing.

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  7. MooseKiller

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    I hope so. I'd give serious consideration to this over a Gear Up... Let's spread the word and see what we can muster up! Doesn't hurt to ask... :deal
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  8. Threewheelbonnie

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    Similar thoughts here, another dress up job when the bike needs serious mechanical changes to break through into the next level of riders. What's next I wonder, a pink one to tie in with the latest Barbie? A 100% chromed one to try and get riders away from cruisers?

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  9. windmill

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    Like this?
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  10. outfit

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    Somthing on these line's. I've seen better photo's of this machine, might av been over on soviet steeds. Would'nt have been too hard for Ural to have made a BMW G/S look-a-like puller. Infact they have done just that in the past (prototype; cant find the photo).

    I notice there are alot of Ural chair's being attached to BMW Oilhead GS's (complicated puller). So surerly there's a market for a simple operator friendly enduro outfit.

    The Ural Cross in my opinion is neither a road outfit nor an off roader. Just look's .............................................................naf.
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  11. windmill

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    I agree, When I went riding with Mr. Cob, I got to see his rig in action at all angles, I got to tell You it looks right. The Ural cross is a great start, but the exhaust, fenders and headlight need to be changed.

    Now I may be incorrect, but as far as I know, at this point the Ural cross is actually being built by a dealer, not the factory.


    Lean and mean.
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  12. MooseKiller

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    I think my interest in this rig is mainly for the utility portion of this tub. If/when I get a hack, I probably would be carrying more cargo than passengers.
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    Sidecardoug Pleasantly pleasing

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    I am in touch with IMWA to see if the body can be brought into North America
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  14. MooseKiller

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    Sidecardoug, you're my hero! :clap
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  15. Threewheelbonnie

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    Take the seat out. The Ural tub weighs about 30 KG (guess that's about 70 lb?). Two touratech type boxes weigh about 10KG and an alluminium plate to mount them 2. Ammunition boxes weigh more. By the time you've tied your stuff to the platform you've saved about the weight of a decent meal unless you genuinely will carry less than you would on a Japanese 125.

    The tub isn't streamlined like say a Charnwood Meteor, but it's cross-sectional area and drag coefficient make it about twice as efficient as those two touratech boxes with a roll sack and a couple of jerry cans strapped on. Lots of small cubes make a heck of a lot of drag compared to one big one with a hemispherical end.

    The tub also keeps your stuff dry, out of sight of any thieving barstewards and can be loaded with a shovel, no messing about with bungees and straps just chuck it in.

    Finally, if you need to carry someone, guide, injured person, hot looking hitchhiker, whatever, it's a lot safer (and legal) in the tub, just move your stuff to the racks.

    Platform chairs on competition outfits are so the passenger can be fully involved and because saving the weight of a big mac is that important. If you need/want to deliver pianos the platform is of course useful. Other than that, it's fashion over function IMHO.

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  16. windmill

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    Andy makes a very good point, BMW, Zundapp, Ural, Dnepr, CJ, and many custom builders have used the Stiebel military pattern tub for a reason, it works well for many uses. The cross hack is a cool start for a enduro rig, but less practical for every day use.


    I can fit a generator, mig welder, power tools, hand tools, cords, and materials by just removing the seat bottom, and still fit under the cover.
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  17. outfit

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    You can come ride with me any time. With all that stuff I'd need never worry about a breakdown again:rofl :rofl :rofl

    You just missed out the beer:freaky

    Just out of interest, what's with the high exhaust on the right side of Mr Cob's outfit?
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  18. windmill

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    Don't worry, the beer is in the trunk. :wink:

    Mr. Cob is building an all out enduro rig. With a high exhaust, a Urals minimum ground clearance is about 12". With stock exhaust it is about 9" at the mufflers.
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  20. Sidecardoug

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    Looks like you can order a cross bike sidecar body through your dealer!

    Good news!

    Going to start counting pennies...:D
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