Ural reliability?

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  1. seekeronsaltspring

    seekeronsaltspring Crazy David

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    yes at 58 that how I feel some days the Ural is good for the sole mades one inner laugh and sing at times, I once walk in to shop humming to my self after riding for a while was told I must be a happy guy. The Geat Excape was playing in my head. Wonder why.

    David
  2. Norms 427

    Norms 427 Been here awhile

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    Very wise words, my friend. I have an acquaintance that is in his 90s and he says that he no longer buys green bananas because he doesn't know if he'll be around to eat them. :)

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  3. seekeronsaltspring

    seekeronsaltspring Crazy David

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    Speaking of its in today paper.

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  4. Kristof Granit

    Kristof Granit Long timer

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    Reliability of an Ural on 3500km?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    A - 2850km from Irbit (factory) to Novorossiysk (On the Black Sea Coast)<o:p></o:p>
    1<SUP>st</SUP> Day:<o:p></o:p>
    15<SUP>th</SUP> June I went to Irbit at the Ural factory to take my Ural Gear Up, the side was assembled in the afternoon and deliver to me by 5pm, after filling the tank at the nearest station I start my journey with the first step to Ekaterinburg (241km)<o:p></o:p>
    2<SUP>nd</SUP> Day: 16/06/2011 - Ekaterinburg/Ufa -- 547km<o:p></o:p>
    3<SUP>rd</SUP> Day: 17/06/2011 - Ufa/Samara -- 419km<o:p></o:p>
    4<SUP>th</SUP> Day: 18/06/2011 - Samara/Saratov -- 437km<o:p></o:p>
    5<SUP>th</SUP> Day: 19/06/2011 - Saratov/Rostov -- 712km
    6<SUP>th</SUP> Day: 20/06/2011 - Rostov/Novorossiysk -- 488km<o:p></o:p>
    Total: 2844km<o:p></o:p>
    Pictures of the journey:<o:p></o:p>
    https://picasaweb.google.com/VivreRussie/IrbitOuralNovorossiyskMerNoireURALGearUp2WDJuin2011


    B – 650 km - “Black Ural on the Black Sea”<o:p></o:p>
    Pictures of some ride, including offroad, from 21<SUP>st</SUP> to 2<SUP>nd</SUP> of July on the Black Sea coast:<o:p></o:p>
    https://picasaweb.google.com/VivreRussie/BlackUralOnTheBlackSea#
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    Mechanical report::<o:p></o:p>
    According to the owner manual the first oil change is at 500km, but I have done it at 1200km and only the engine… Gear Box and final transmission at the end of the trip (…)<o:p></o:p>
    The first day I try to “respect” the 60km/h maxi but second day and others I drove mostly around 80km/h and at the end some time above when I need to overtake a lorry.<o:p></o:p>
    From the first day to the last no oil consumption, level stay at the same mark.<o:p></o:p>
    Problems? <o:p></o:p>
    Day 5 in the evening, contactor for the rear “stop light” stay “on” permanently, next morning I bought some WD40 and it was solve…<o:p></o:p>
    Two sandows from the side-cover get broken, it will cost me less to ask a local sawyer to repair them than to send back the cover to the factory, I don’t even know if there is a guaranty on it (…)<o:p></o:p>
    Paint under the opening of the luggage bonnet get heavy scratch and even “disappear” in some places due to the vibrations metal/metal… I could have read more RR and prepare the bike before and also do some improvement as soon the problem appear but instead I have continue to ride… <o:p></o:p>
    And that’s it for the mechanical report…

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    Ps: By the way I never drove a side before not even a test drive…<o:p></o:p>
  5. AeroEngineer

    AeroEngineer Been here awhile

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    Welcome to the forum, and thanks for your report!
  6. oldmanriver1951

    oldmanriver1951 Adventurer

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    I bought a 2010 Ural Patrol, had a few issues with the russian 'quality', but were dealt with promptly and rather quickly. Now have 12k on it and feel very confident with the bike...the trick is to learn to do your own wrenching...The basic fact is these are old world machines and the newer mechs have no ass time on them...Any problems I have had, were the result of the dealer mech doing the 'warranty' work. Once I started doing my own work...according to warranty specs...not a single problem.. Is it perfect? No...is it quirky? You bet...but damn its fun...and the knowledge that I can just about do any repair work on the side of the road or in a parking lot is very comforting. Every bike I have ever owned has had some kind of mech malfunction, its the nature of the beasts...but this beast...I can work on.....Bit by bit you can redo the russian quality with your own version of quality work...will be taking sasha cross country for a two month ramble before settling down in washington state in 2012 and feel confident that it will be fun, adventure filled and probably some issues...but nothing I couldn't handle...and I don't have a machine shop or even a garage...just under the shade tree in the yard....
  7. JBSmith

    JBSmith Ink-stained wretch

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    Dammit, where did the last hour go? Oh yeah, reading this thread...

    I live in the Northwest, I ride all year, and I love my heated vest and gloves. The specs on the Ural site say most models have a 770-watt alternator, which is more than enough to run my electrics. It seems like an awful lot of output, though, for such a basic machine. Am I missing something? Is there a lot of current draw on the stock bike, or is there really that much excess wattage available?
  8. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    The bike uses very little current to operate, it is just excess output because Ural chose to use use a standard automotive/industrial Nippon-Denso alternator.

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  9. JBSmith

    JBSmith Ink-stained wretch

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    Good quality part, and wide availability. Cool.
  10. deeve

    deeve Adventure Lite

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    Thats funny, because I was wondering the same thing. These machines seem very unique and actually well thought out. I have been cruising used ads for Urals and it there does not seem to be much in the 08+ category. I know some if it is low volume, but folks who have them must be happy.

    Dave
  11. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    Well in 2008 their total production was around 850 rigs, 2009 only about 450, and 2010 back up to around 650. Thats less than what HD produces in one week. Your fishing in a very small pond and most are not purchased new on a whim.
  12. deeve

    deeve Adventure Lite

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    Is 850 pretty what they shoot for? It is my understanding that they put them together by hand. Are they ordered on a per unit basis? I didn't realize that production was so low. That is pretty cool.
  13. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    I think they will be over 1000 this year. They are built in production lots, not to order, but dealers must pay for them up front. Custom rigs can be ordered separately. Back in the 80's under Soviet control they built 1600 rigs a day and employed 10,000 people. Today the factory is around 130 people and the corporate headquarters in Redmond Washington is 8 people.

    A good look at the factory.
    http://www.thetimelessride.com/US/Eurasia/Russia/Russia.319.htm

    http://www.thetimelessride.com/US/Eurasia/Siberia/Siberia.1.htm
  14. Kristof Granit

    Kristof Granit Long timer

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  15. JBSmith

    JBSmith Ink-stained wretch

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    I've read that the tire choices for Urals are limited. What's the problem--size? GVWR? What about lacing up rims that accept a wider selection of rubber?
  16. Tarka

    Tarka Doesn't wave back.

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    There`s just not too many choices in 4.00x19 tyres nowadays.
    (Bear in mind that the solos have different sizes anyway)

    But there is quite sufficient variety to allow for pure road tyres, trials block type and full knobbly.

    There`s even still a choice of manufacturer of 4.00x19 tyre too...apart from the (increasingly hard to get) Uralshina Russian tyres,there is Avon,Heidenau and Mitas...to name the 'main' brands...plus a few others.

    You can`t go wider at the rear because even a 4.00x19 is very close to the driveshift.
    Okay,you could fit a spacer for offroad use but why bother arsing about?
    Look at what Urals have been doing...and are still doing...perfectly capably with the tyre sizes that they`ve got.

    It`s not the problem that you may be thinking that it is.
  17. JBSmith

    JBSmith Ink-stained wretch

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    It's not broke, don't need to fix it. Got it, thanks.
  18. Norms 427

    Norms 427 Been here awhile

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    Reliable? My experience is yes.

    I just got back home to Spokane from Alaska from a 6 week and 10,400 km trip on my 2011 Patrol and had a fantastic time! I could not believe all the attention Olga got on this trip ... if there were a contest for "The Most Photographed Motorcycle in Alaska 2011" then I'd definitely enter Olga.

    * I have a total of 14,500 km and the only little issue on the trip was that the hack wheel was a little bit out of true side to side and caused a loosening of the attachment due to a wobble. I replaced it with the spare and all was good. My dealer will true the wheel next week.

    * Also, before my trip I had 2 seals in the final drive replaced due to leakage. I've learned (and from good advice from experienced Uralists) just to keep the fluid level at the lower mark and it'll rarely seep. No biggie. Those seals probably didn't need replacing, I just needed educating. :)

    I've posted a RR on soviet steeds dot com.

    Taking a Ural through BC, Yukon and Alaska is, for me, the ultimate trip. Those places are made for a Ural, speeds are modest, scenery is stunning, people are friendly, and motorists are respectful. If you haven't made this trip, then take whatever rig you have and GO!

    Norm

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  19. fyr

    fyr iRoast Coffee

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    Thats Gods land right there Norms.
    Did it many times in a cage. Dream of a motorbike one day..:clap
  20. ceejfletcher

    ceejfletcher n00b

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    I just read below about the problems with "Trooper Lu" the motor cycle dealer in Moorebank Sydney.
    Here is my story. I bought my Ural at the Bike at Auction a few blocks down the road from Trooper Lu". I arranged that Trooper Lu pick up the Bike from the Auction then inspect and carry out any repairs needed to which they agreed tough they said they will not be able to do it until the following week as they were busy. The following week I asked them if they had picked the bike up to which they replied they hadnt as they were busy. I told them (Justin) that the bike had to be removed from the yard today and he should have told me this earlier as I would have arranged to have it picked up by an other bike shop. Justin was nice enough and said he would sort it out. So the bike was biked up and inspected. He said he couldnt do the repairs as they were busy so I then asked for the to transport the bike home.
    So the advertised price for the transport of the bike it $80.00 and Justin said that the cost would be slightly more because of the side car. So they took off $565.00 of my credit card with out my permission. I Send an email to Justin to ask if was a mistake. They did not even do an Inspection. This guy seems like a mess. Ive Copy and pasted the reply below. I would avoid this guy like the plague. Appears to be pretty disorganised. I ll take him to court to teach him a lesson and hopefully he will think twice about ripping people off again.

    Chris
    How dare you. We made no money, we had to store your sidecar and then manage the delivery. Please do not use our services or contact again.

    So true still of sidecar owners.

    Please do not contact us or our staff again.

    Our website says from 80. And you have a sidecar which does not fit in a van and needs a truck. So yes it costs more.

    So typical - ural and sidecar!!
    J

    ------Original Message------
    From: Christopher Fletcher
    To: Trooper lu's garage
    Subject: Ural Delivery
    Sent: Aug 30, 2011 9:35 PM

    Hi justin
    Id like you to reconsider what you charged me for the delivery of my bike. I feel that the price you charged me is unreasonable. Your Website states $80.00 and you said with a side car it would be slightly more than that. I feel that what you indicated for a price is completely different from what you ended up charging me. I am requesting that you refund some money.
    Regards
    Chris Fletcher